17:57:22 From Byron Christopher Vaughn to Everyone: good evening everyone 17:57:56 From Kheoshi Owens (she/they) to Everyone: Hello :-) 17:58:00 From Afrita Davis (She/Her) to Everyone: Good evening Byron! 18:04:14 From Maria Spanish Interpreter to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): I also need to unmute myself so folks can hear me in interpreter channel. 18:04:20 From Stephanie Howard to Everyone: Stephanie Howard, Mayor's Director of Community Safety, stephanie.howard@portlandoregon.gov 18:04:38 From PCCEP Portland to Maria Spanish Interpreter(Direct Message): Got it! 18:05:11 From Ruthie Benjamin (she/her) to Everyone: Ruthie Benjamin - community 18:05:17 From barb. rainish (she/her/Barb.) to Everyone: Hi to everyone!! 18:05:31 From dan handelman portland copwatch to Everyone: Dan Handelman, he/him, Portland Copwatch 18:05:34 From Barbara Bochinski PCW to Everyone: Barbara Bochinski, Portland Copwatch 18:05:38 From barb. rainish (she/her/Barb.) to Everyone: Barb. Rainish she/her 18:05:54 From Tia Palafox, she/her to Everyone: I cannot turn off my mute 18:06:05 From Zeenab Fowlk (she/her) to Everyone: Zoom Message "The host is not allowing participants to unmute themselves." 18:06:52 From CSD Support Staff 2 to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): Promote Tia to co-host when you can 18:08:31 From Amy Ruiz to Everyone: Amy Ruiz, COCL team, she/her. Apologies, I will need to leave at 7 (I am a volunteer on another City commission that meets tonight), but I will catch up on the recording. 18:08:33 From Tia Palafox, she/her to Everyone: Tia Palafox, PCCEP member, Having a lot of back pain, and may shift here & there as needed. Just a FYI. 18:09:04 From Dennis Rosenbaum Compliance Officer (he/him) to Everyone: Hi Dennis Rosenbaum (He/him), Compliance Officer, COCL 18:09:58 From dan handelman portland copwatch to Everyone: In the spirit of these agreements I hope we can refer to “dots” rather than “bullets” since we’re dealing with police issues. Thanks! 18:11:26 From Ashley Schofield (she/them) to Everyone: Great idea, Dan! 18:14:33 From PCCEP Portland to Captioner Heather(Direct Message): So sorry about that Heather! 18:14:34 From Zeenab Fowlk (she/her) to Everyone: Thanks Stephanie & Dori. Was the PCCEP Town Hall Canceled for October? 18:16:01 From Tia Palafox, she/her to Everyone: 10/12? 18:17:34 From Zeenab Fowlk (she/her) to Everyone: THANK YOU! Also, thanks for having facilitators for our meeting it is great to welcome you to the space. 18:18:12 From PCCEP Portland to Everyone: https://www.portland.gov/pccep/events 18:24:39 From Afrita Davis (She/Her) to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): can you pin me as well. So that people can see how much time they have remaining. 18:25:37 From Zeenab Fowlk (she/her) to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): Hi Dori, Can we get access to the PPB Stop slides online? 18:29:41 From PCCEP Portland to Zeenab Fowlk (she/her)(Direct Message): Hi Zeenab, I believe so, but can you ask this in the general chat? 18:30:07 From Tia Palafox, she/her to Everyone: Even though it is reported yearly, can we see the up to date statistics continually on the City's/ PPB dashboard? So the stops that have happened in 2022 are listed? 18:30:51 From PCCEP Portland to Afrita Davis (She/Her)(Direct Message): Things got weird when I tried to do this, so we unpinned everyone for the time being. Did it look weird on your end? 18:31:06 From Nathan Castle (he/him) - PCCEP to Everyone: https://www.portland.gov/police/open-data/stops-data 18:31:49 From Afrita Davis (She/Her) to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): Yeah it got a little funky, but its better now 18:33:01 From Ann Campbell she,her to Everyone: I am not seeing the new slides 18:33:51 From Maria Spanish Interpreter to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): Luis cannot unmute himself 18:34:34 From PCCEP Portland to Ashley Schofield (she/them)(Direct Message): Someone should ask what "injury collision benchmark %" is. And benchmark %s in general. 18:35:40 From PCCEP Portland to Luis Aguilera (Spanish Interpreter)(Direct Message): Luis, I apologize--I forgot to make you a co-host but you can now use the chat. 18:36:29 From Luis Aguilera (Spanish Interpreter) to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): 👍 18:38:28 From Afrita Davis (She/Her) to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): shld i cut him off or let him finish the 3 slides? 18:39:00 From PCCEP Portland to Afrita Davis (She/Her)(Direct Message): He can finish, but if it goes longer than 2 more minutes I will send a message. 18:39:51 From PCCEP Portland to Afrita Davis (She/Her)(Direct Message): If PCCEP members have a lot to say, we will cut into public comment time rather than the other way around. But we still need to stop this discussion at 7:20. 18:40:03 From Afrita Davis (She/Her) to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): hes 1 min over 18:40:04 From Afrita Davis (She/Her) to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): ok 18:40:41 From Afrita Davis (She/Her) to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): ok hes at 17 mins 18:40:41 From Celeste Carey to Everyone: Dori, will we have access to this presentation outside of this meeting? Thanks 18:41:05 From PCCEP Portland to Celeste Carey(Direct Message): Hi Celeste, can you ask that in the general chat? They may send a link. 18:41:22 From Kheoshi (key-o-she) (she/they) to Everyone: I believe it is public 18:41:22 From PCCEP Portland to Celeste Carey(Direct Message): I'm sure it's available but don't know immediately where it is located. 18:41:29 From Celeste Carey to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): will do. thanks 18:41:54 From PCCEP Portland to Aubrey Perry (he/him)(Direct Message): Hi Aubrey, we need to finish up. Thank you! 18:42:10 From Kheoshi (key-o-she) (she/they) to Everyone: Could we please use the “dots” :-) 18:42:16 From Kheoshi (key-o-she) (she/they) to Everyone: term 18:43:35 From PCCEP Portland to Everyone: To our guests from PPB, could you provide a link to this presentation in the chat? Thank you! 18:43:42 From Ashley Schofield (she/them) to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): I can totally do that, but is that number not in the report? 18:45:47 From Kheoshi (key-o-she) (she/they) to Everyone: Anyone can speak multiple times, but we ask you to keep each individual comment to two minutes to allow all members to have their voice heard. 18:45:56 From Kheoshi (key-o-she) (she/they) to Everyone: Raise hands on Zoom and allow the facilitator to call on people in a way that promotes conversation, keeps things moving, and allows everyone to speak. 18:46:04 From Kheoshi (key-o-she) (she/they) to Everyone: Look forward and discuss how to make the committee’s work more successful in the future on each question. 18:46:15 From PCCEP Portland to Ashley Schofield (she/them)(Direct Message): It is. I wonder if using that metric itself versus using the actual demographics of Portland may be of interest to PCCEP. 18:49:39 From PCCEP Portland to Afrita Davis (She/Her)(Direct Message): Elizabeth Allen is not a PCCEP member and should wait until the public comment time. 18:49:49 From Afrita Davis (She/Her) to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): yeah i caught that 18:49:55 From PCCEP Portland to Kheoshi (key-o-she) (she/they)(Direct Message): Elizabeth Allen is not a PCCEP member and should wait until the public comment time. 18:50:02 From PCCEP Portland to Afrita Davis (She/Her)(Direct Message): thank you! 18:50:47 From Ashley Schofield (she/them) to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): would the question be what is the % of injury collisions of all stops? 18:51:10 From Kheoshi (key-o-she) (she/they) to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): ok, thank you 18:54:04 From Nathan Castle (he/him) - PCCEP to Everyone: I don't see race on my OR license 18:54:34 From Ashley Schofield (she/them) PCCEP member to Everyone: PPB has been collecting data on traffic and pedestrian stops since 2001. The new system was launched June 2018. 18:54:36 From Zeenab Fowlk (she/her) to Everyone: In listening to the presentation: (A) How long has PPB been collecting Stop Data? Is it part of the Settlement Agreement? (B) Why would it be based on perceived race rather than what is on the driver's license which if driver is requested to present to officers? (C) Is the number of officers serving in the capacity as PPB Traffic Officers also tracked, meaning has the decline in officers been a factor? 18:55:14 From PCCEP Portland to Afrita Davis (She/Her)(Direct Message): I just caught that in the facilitator notes I put "hard stop at 7:10" but you probably caught that that is supposed to be 7:20 18:56:01 From Afrita Davis (She/Her) to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): yes, we are doin PCCEP q&a till 7:10 and community comment till 7:20 18:56:58 From Afrita Davis (She/Her) to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): At this rate will not be get the hands raised. do we cut off the at 710 or keep going till 7;20 18:57:10 From Tia Palafox, she/her to Everyone: I am thinking about stereotypes/ bias that we all have in context to stops. What kind of car. What area of Portland. Etc. just putting a note out there. I really hope diversity training is embedded in all police training... 18:59:00 From CSD Support Staff 2 to Everyone: As of 6:57 PM, there are 9 members of PCCEP present, and 4 members absent. There are also 14 people in the audience. 18:59:05 From CSD Support Staff 2 to Everyone: Members of the public can find all the meeting materials for today's PCCEP meeting on the PCCEP website at https://www.portland.gov/pccep/events/2022/9/21/pccep-september-2022-public-meeting 19:02:52 From PCCEP Portland to Afrita Davis (She/Her)(Direct Message): We can stay on this with PCCEP members til 7:15 19:03:12 From PCCEP Portland to Kheoshi (key-o-she) (she/they)(Direct Message): We can stay on this with PCCEP members til 7:15 19:03:14 From Tia Palafox, she/her to Everyone: My questions: 1). Is there data that shows injury or death by police during a traffic stop? 2). I am terrible at data is the data presented based on how many people live here in that race? I know we have a small number of many minority groups. 3). It's not a question, but I have thoughts & wonder about Black people consenting to searches way more than White people?? 19:04:26 From Afrita Davis (She/Her) to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): Ok 19:06:38 From PCCEP Portland to Everyone: We will move to public comment on this topic at 7:15, but please remember there is another public comment period at the end of the meeting, where you will be free to comment on the report if we don't get to you in this section. 19:07:15 From Tia Palafox, she/her to Everyone: I have only found the injury by police data in Copwatch. 19:08:35 From Gloria Canson to Everyone: Stops Data Analysis Temporary restraints by a peace officer present and in place, Please explain “When a suspect is about to commit a crime.” Seems subjective. 19:09:05 From Ann Campbell she,her to Everyone: Thank you for your question Nathan 19:09:47 From Celeste Carey to Everyone: 1. Is it absolutely required- and how is it required- to log a stop in CAD. Can this be bypassed? 2. How does PPB insure a stops mask is completed in a timely manner and accurately? 3. Is it possible to freeze the report to insure the stops mask is completed before leaving the stop? Thanks 19:10:27 From Afrita Davis (She/Her) to Everyone: Hello everyone we will have pccep question and comment for 5 more minutes. 19:11:12 From Ashley Schofield (she/them) PCCEP member to Everyone: That sounds like over policing to me. 19:12:14 From Tia Palafox, she/her to Everyone: Celeste - Stops masks? or reports? 19:12:21 From PCCEP Portland to Afrita Davis (She/Her)(Direct Message): Can we make sure to get Ashley's question because she is new? 19:12:29 From PCCEP Portland to Afrita Davis (She/Her)(Direct Message): If at all possible 19:12:41 From Afrita Davis (She/Her) to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): sure, i will try 19:13:14 From PCCEP Portland to Afrita Davis (She/Her)(Direct Message): Thank you! 19:15:08 From Stephanie Howard to Everyone: Reasonable suspicion that a crime has been committed or is about to be committed is a legal standard established by the Supreme Court in the 1960's. This standard requires officers to articulate specific observations that would lead a reasonable police officer to believe that a crime is about to be committed. 19:16:45 From PCCEP Portland to Afrita Davis (She/Her)(Direct Message): She lowered her hand so we can move on. 19:17:33 From Kheoshi (key-o-she) (she/they) to Everyone: Please put your questions in the chat, we don't want to lose them! 19:17:54 From Leslie Martinez (PCCEP) to Everyone: Aubrey, as you mentioned, there are numerous benchmarks that could be used. How do you vet and select the benchmark statistics you use? i.e. comparing the injured in collisions or victims of crimes rather than population. The crime victimization, in particular, is a benchmark that has been criticized. 19:17:58 From PCCEP Portland to Everyone: Including anyone who lowered their hand! 19:18:20 From Tia Palafox, she/her to Everyone: muted 19:18:50 From Ashley Schofield (she/them) PCCEP member to Everyone: I wanted to ask what are injury collision benchmark %s. Could we get more info about what these are and why they are important. 19:18:55 From Ashley Schofield (she/them) PCCEP member to Everyone: important to use. 19:19:18 From Nathan Castle (he/him) - PCCEP to Everyone: Sharing here because we're running out of time: The speed limits and enforcement component of Portland's vision zero commitment is highly problematic and almost certainly contributing to disparate outcomes, especially if high-crash corridors (inadequate infrastructure investment) is concentrated in disadvantaged neighborhoods. I encourage folks to learn more about the problems that arise from using enforcement to create safe driving behavior, and the many proven alternatives. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc 19:19:20 From Ashley Schofield (she/them) PCCEP member to Everyone: Great question, Leslie! 19:19:51 From Tia Palafox, she/her to Everyone: TY Nathan 19:19:58 From Ashley Schofield (she/them) PCCEP member to Everyone: Thanks, Nathan! 19:20:41 From PCCEP Portland to Everyone: As a reminder, we will have additional time for public comment at the end of the meeting! 19:21:06 From Tia Palafox, she/her to Everyone: That didn't make sense. That the numbers are both crime/ victim 19:22:12 From Byron Christopher Vaughn to Everyone: that is why I asked for community feed back 19:22:31 From Nathan Castle (he/him) - PCCEP to Everyone: Question for SSD: do newer safety technologies (automatic emergency braking, improved headlights etc) influence the injury collision benchmark; newer safety technologies being present on newer, more expensive vehicles? Does PPB track the model/year of vehcles involved in injury collisions? 19:24:33 From Nathan Castle (he/him) - PCCEP to Everyone: Question for PPB or city: Are there still barriers to wide deployment of camera-based enforcement? A robust, widely deployed photoenforcement system could avoid bias/disparity issues while achieving safety goals in the absence of infrastructure investment. 19:25:04 From Mike Frome (he/him) to Everyone: An injury collision should result in PPB filling out a State create collision report, which would have year, make and model of vehicles. 19:26:14 From Ann Campbell she,her to Everyone: I am concerned that since we are not allowed to have subcommittee meetings where we would talk about our statement and get community feedback. 19:29:33 From Mike Frome (he/him) to Everyone: The current barriers to camera based enforcement are logistical. The legislature passed laws that allow non-police review of camera/radar based citations. In Portland, the Bureau of Transportation would need to create a group of employees to do the citation review. We would need to find a way for those employees to have access to DMV photos-- you have to compare the driver in the photo to the registered owner before you can issue the citation. 19:30:43 From Tia Palafox, she/her to Everyone: What is interesting to me is not all of the remedies we highlighted in the example letter has not been completed. And in regards to the 2020 protests (crowd control) suggestions, we have an upcoming townhall on that, as well. 19:32:52 From CSD Support Staff 2 to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): By having the drafting being done outside of the public meetings, by the drafting committee and NOT by staff, there would be more time available during the November 2 meeting for public input 19:33:32 From CSD Support Staff 2 to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): "drafting group" not committee * 19:34:26 From Celeste Carey to Everyone: I'm interested in how the prior concerns that were presented have been addressed and what status is afforded them. thanks 19:35:50 From CSD Support Staff 2 to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): The content of any new statement could also be what Celeste said - restating or retooling previous recommendations 19:36:37 From Tia Palafox, she/her to Everyone: The past suggestions are: BWC, Civilian head over PPB training, After action reports improvements, Crowd control improvements. 19:37:05 From Zeenab Fowlk (she/her) to Everyone: Thanks Celeste. The Workplan Structure is a great idea, however, many PCCEP members have been delivering feedback to the court without a plan. If we want to move forward as a collective, this would have been something we could have discussed itself in a meeting first. 19:39:57 From CSD Support Staff 2 to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): City Attorneys have advised against use of collaborative document methods like Google Docs as a violation of public meeting laws. 19:41:38 From Celeste Carey to Everyone: I do appreciate your effort in keeping us moving forward. Perhaps we should determine what and how we will present our views/concerns/ etc... 19:41:52 From Ann Campbell she,her to Everyone: Some of us worked on a statement previously, and were told that were not able to move forward due to lack of quorum 19:42:39 From Jared Hager - USDOJ to Everyone: Just fyi: The former city attorney advised that PCCEP isn’t necessarily subject to the Oregon public meetings law because it’s a mayoral committee. 19:42:56 From CSD Support Staff 2 to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): PCCEP cannot move forward on approving anything without a quorum. However, the drafting process does not require a quorum and can be done by small groups. In fact, the draft statement from the early July meeting was drafted by two members operating as an informal drafting group 19:43:03 From CSD Support Staff 2 to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): ^ Re: Ann's comment 19:43:23 From Stephanie Howard to Everyone: In order to present a statement on behalf of PCCEP, a vote would be needed on the statement being made. The last statement was not able to be presented on behalf of PCCEP because there was not a quorum of members present to vote on the statement. PCCEP members are always welcome to make statements as individuals, which is what happened at the last two status conferences. 19:43:50 From Zeenab Fowlk (she/her) to Everyone: Thanks Jared for that information. It would be great to get an understanding in why the City continues to move in this direction and have been stifling, especially given the fact that we no longer have the subcommittees who really collected information from the community. 19:44:53 From PCCEP Portland to Everyone: Hi Ann, my comments about quorum were related to the working group only! Quorum is needed to adopt the statement. We would intend to accomplish that in the 11/2 special meeting. 19:44:54 From Jared Hager - USDOJ to Everyone: The lack of subcommittee is a compliance concern for DOJ that I’ve raised with the City Attorney’s Office. I’ll continue that discussion with Sarah Ames when she’s back in town. 19:45:08 From Stephanie Howard to Everyone: Sarah Ames will also be happy to provide legal advice on this to the group. She is unfortunately unavailable tonight, but I am sure she will be happy to answer all questions when she is back. 19:46:15 From PCCEP Portland to Jared Hager - USDOJ(Direct Message): Hi Jared--I have addressed the subcommittee restart plan with PCCEP at length. We are working on training compliance first, but have a clear plan in place. Thank you! 19:46:48 From Ann Campbell she,her to Everyone: Yes Gloria 19:46:56 From Jared Hager - USDOJ to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): Thank you Dori! I haven’t seen the subcommittee restart plan. Can you please email it to me? 19:47:54 From Ashley Schofield (she/them) PCCEP member to Everyone: As a new member, I ddi not have any input. I would like to vote to create a statement. 19:48:50 From Tia Palafox, she/her to Everyone: The last statement is 2-3 pages, so it is more like a letter. 19:50:37 From Celeste Carey to Everyone: Yes I want to participate, but I would need to meet with PCCEP members and determine what are the issues we need to discuss and bring forward. We need to hear what is seen, what are our concerns and be ok that we might not have a unified view on what is important and needs to be addressed. thanks 19:50:37 From Ann Campbell she,her to Everyone: Thanks Zeenab 19:51:02 From CSD Support Staff 2 to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): They can also email in to join 19:51:10 From Tia Palafox, she/her to Everyone: Is it in person? 19:52:49 From Leslie Martinez (PCCEP) to Everyone: I'll be part of the group :) 19:53:09 From Ashley Schofield (she/them) PCCEP member to Everyone: To clarify, me, Celeste and Bryon will work on the draft - with whole group input, then in early November we would vote to submit it. 19:53:20 From Ashley Schofield (she/them) PCCEP member to Everyone: And Leslie! 19:53:30 From Jared Hager - USDOJ to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): I’d like to observe the working group. Thanks! 19:53:50 From PCCEP Portland to CSD Support Staff 2(Direct Message): I’d like to observe the working group. Thanks! 19:53:54 From PCCEP Portland to CSD Support Staff 2(Direct Message): from Jared 19:54:46 From PCCEP Portland to Ashley Schofield (she/them) PCCEP member(Direct Message): Ashley, that is the general idea! 19:54:56 From Ashley Schofield (she/them) PCCEP member to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): okay! 19:55:32 From PCCEP Portland to CSD Support Staff 2(Direct Message): Hi Jared--I have addressed the subcommittee restart plan with PCCEP at length. We are working on training compliance first, but have a clear plan in place. Thank you! 19:55:33 From Nathan Castle (he/him) - PCCEP to Everyone: I’d like to be involved if it won't displace another member 19:55:42 From PCCEP Portland to CSD Support Staff 2(Direct Message): I sent this to him 19:55:55 From Ashley Schofield (she/them) PCCEP member to Everyone: That would be 5 of us if you joined Nathan. 19:56:11 From PCCEP Portland to Everyone: Nathan, that would be excellent! 19:57:57 From Jared Hager - USDOJ to Everyone: Will the work group be open to the public? Either way—Please share the zoom link for the working group with DOJ so that we may monitor this new format for PCCEP work product. 19:58:11 From Celeste Carey to Everyone: Debbie and all: please feel free to contact me by email with PCCEP related concerns...especially until we get the sub-comms back in effect. celeste.carey@portlandoregon.gov 19:58:56 From Ann Campbell she,her to Everyone: ann.campbell@portlandoregon.gov 19:59:40 From Tia Palafox, she/her to Everyone: Great Celeste & Anne! 19:59:41 From Nathan Castle (he/him) - PCCEP to Everyone: nathan.castle@portlandoregon.gov 19:59:56 From Ashley Schofield (she/them) PCCEP member to Everyone: ashley.schofield@portlandoregon.gov 20:00:03 From barb. rainish (she/her/Barb.) to Everyone: YAY..please unmuteBarb.....again, I messed ....the one that literally says "again" thnx 20:00:31 From Jared Hager - USDOJ to Everyone: Jared.hager@usdoj.gov — please let me know if you have any concerns or questions that the Department of Justice may help provide clarity about. 20:00:33 From PCCEP Portland to Everyone: Hi Barb! You should be able to unmute yourself! 20:00:43 From dan handelman portland copwatch to Everyone: But they;re all allegedly stopping cars based on traffic violations. 20:01:17 From CSD Support Staff 2 to PCCEP Portland(Direct Message): "We are aware that the Citizen Review Committee meets some Wednesdays. We coordinate as much as is possible, but as you'll see when we get to the calendar of upcoming PCCEP events, this is challenging." 20:01:52 From Ashley Schofield (she/them) PCCEP member to Everyone: Thanks, Jared. 20:01:53 From barb. rainish (she/her/Barb.) to Everyone: and here we are at 8'oclock again.....Can i get Dori's email .... 20:02:00 From Ann Campbell she,her to Everyone: Thank you for that clarification Kheoshi 20:02:12 From barb. rainish (she/her/Barb.) to Everyone: @ Dan...Nope...i am on here twice 20:02:29 From PCCEP Portland to Everyone: Hi Dan--We are aware that the Citizen Review Committee meets some Wednesdays. We coordinate as much as is possible, but as you'll see when we get to the calendar of upcoming PCCEP events, this is challenging. 20:03:08 From PCCEP Portland to Afrita Davis (She/Her)(Direct Message): We need to end the meeting 20:03:09 From Ann Campbell she,her to Everyone: again. Thank you Kheoshi 20:03:22 From Tia Palafox, she/her to Everyone: Dori.Grabinski@portlandoregon.gov 20:04:22 From Ann Campbell she,her to Everyone: Thanks to everyone for being here with us tonight🙂 20:04:42 From CSD Support Staff 2 to Everyone: PCCEP staff support can be reached at PCCEPinfo@PortlandOregon.gov 20:05:54 From barb. rainish (she/her/Barb.) to Everyone: I'd like to see the bylaws.... 20:07:07 From Tia Palafox, she/her to Everyone: Is the training both dates or you choose or the oct 26 is the next one? 20:07:23 From Byron Christopher Vaughn to Everyone: Great Job Everyone Thank you 20:07:34 From dan handelman portland copwatch to Everyone: Barb. R. didn’t get to speak 20:07:51 From PCCEP Portland to Afrita Davis (She/Her)(Direct Message): Apologies, we did not see Barb's hand! 20:07:52 From Tia Palafox, she/her to Everyone: sorry Barb!! 20:07:59 From PCCEP Portland to Afrita Davis (She/Her)(Direct Message): We will prioritize her next time! 20:08:11 From PCCEP Portland to Everyone: Apologies, we did not see Barb's hand!