18:05:25 From Pastor/City Councilman  Robin Wisner To Everyone:
	welcome everyone
18:08:05 From barb. rainish (she/her/Barb.) To Everyone:
	barb. rainish she/her community
18:08:08 From Amy Ruiz, COCL team, she/her To Everyone:
	Amy Ruiz, she/her, part of the COCL team
18:08:13 From Natalie she/her To Everyone:
	Natalie she/her part of COCL team
18:08:18 From Barbara Bochinski To Everyone:
	Barbara Bochinski, she/her, Portland Copwatch
18:08:39 From Pattie Carlin To Everyone:
	Pattie Carlin (she/her) - community member
18:08:53 From Corinne Alfonsi-Frechette To Everyone:
	Corinne Alfonsi-Frechette- Police Bureau-wide Advisory Committee. Thank you for having me
18:11:11 From Marc Poris (he/him) To Everyone:
	Marc Poris, he/him, Portland Copwatch, I have to sign off shortly but am grateful for the PCCEP volunteers and glad to see the Subcommittees back in action.
18:20:04 From Darlene Urban Garrett To Everyone:
	Darlene Urban Garrett, Executive Director Neighbors West Northwest, working with eleven neighborhoods to build positive relationships with our police.
18:40:26 From Tina Jones-PPB Commander To Everyone:
	My internet is acting up so I am turning my camera off so I can hear better.
18:44:18 From dan handelman he/him To Everyone:
	See Portland Copwatch’s analysis of the December 10 2022 Police Review Board report at https://www.portlandcopwatch.org/PRBanalysis1222.html
18:50:26 From dan handelman he/him To Everyone:
	The settlement agreement also has thresholds of when an officer gets flagged for a talking-to.
18:57:11 From dan handelman he/him To Everyone:
	But it’s a majority of police. https://www.portland.gov/code/3/20/140
18:57:48 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP To Everyone:
	Thanks Dan!
18:59:16 From Corinne Alfonsi-Frechette To Everyone:
	https://www.portland.gov/police/divisions/prb-reports
19:00:00 From dan handelman he/him To Everyone:
	The only officer who was indicted in the last 50 years for an OIS (non-fatal, accidentally loaded live rounds in a “beanbag” gun) took his own life before trial.
19:00:28 From Natalie she/her To Everyone:
	thank you tina!
19:00:49 From PCCEP Portland To Everyone:
	Let's wrap this discussion in 5 minutes
19:00:50 From Nathan Castle To Everyone:
	Thank you both!
19:03:25 From Pastor Robin Wisner To Everyone:
	Corinne thanks
19:03:38 From Natalie she/her To Everyone:
	Thank you Amanda for you time
19:03:54 From dan handelman he/him To Everyone:
	It hasn’t been called the Performance Review Board since 2010 (It’s “Police Review Board”) and the reports are all redacted so they’re really hard to follow, that’s why PCW does our analysis.
19:04:31 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP To Everyone:
	That is what I kept running into, Dan. Thanks again for this information.
19:05:24 From barb. rainish (she/her/Barb.) To Everyone:
	Thank you Dan....I thought that sounded weird!
19:22:33 From PCCEP Portland To Everyone:
	COCL = Portland Compliance Officer/Community Liaison
19:22:54 From Tia Palafox, she/ her To Everyone:
	Jared, What happens when COCL states/ finds something to be in compliance & DOJ finds it to be out of compliance?
19:23:39 From Tia Palafox, she/ her To Everyone:
	And vice versa
19:24:45 From PCCEP Portland To Everyone:
	Rosenbaum & Associates was hired to be the COCL - it is a named entity in the Settlement Agreement.
19:25:33 From Pastor Robin Wisner To Everyone:
	sorry
19:26:57 From Tia Palafox, she/ her To Everyone:
	That makes sense.  Thank you
19:27:05 From Jake Dockter (he/him) To Everyone:
	Just want to thank all the PCCEP folks for your continued support and hard work. Community needs you and you are so valued.
19:28:17 From Jake Dockter (he/him) To Everyone:
	Question for the city attorney: Do they view their role as supporting the police bureau or the citizens of Portland? How do they parse when those are at odds?
19:28:37 From Tia Palafox, she/ her To Everyone:
	Yes, I have seen that - it makes it transparent Sarah.
19:31:21 From Jared Hager - USDOJ (he/him) To Everyone:
	I think Jake's question uses THEY to mean COCL
19:31:31 From Nathan Castle To Everyone:
	That’s how I read it, too.
19:32:07 From Jake Dockter (he/him) To Everyone:
	I meant it as They = city attorney
19:32:15 From Jared Hager - USDOJ (he/him) To Everyone:
	My bad!
19:33:13 From Sarah Ames, she/her, Dep City Atty To Everyone:
	I was pretty sure Jake didn't mean COCL represented the Police Bureau.... I understood. Thanks!
19:33:51 From barb. rainish (she/her/Barb.) To Everyone:
	Do we know...or when will it be known what will happen to Rosenbaum and Assoc when Dennis Rosenbaum retires??  thx
19:34:14 From Jake Dockter (he/him) To Everyone:
	my question, IMO, is germane because the city attorney is a party of the agreement. I am hoping to discern how they view their role, as an advocate for the citizens OR for the police and city?
19:45:43 From Tia Palafox, she/ her To Everyone:
	Sorry, I am not on camera, but did Pastor Wisner ask the question to begin with, What is going to be different with Dennis Rosenbaum gone due to retirement?  Is COCL continuing with him just not being with them anymore? Or are you all looking for a new monitor?
19:47:33 From Jake Dockter (he/him) To Everyone:
	Fine, Jared. I'll do it.
19:47:43 From PCCEP Portland To Everyone:
	😂
19:50:44 From Jake Dockter (he/him) To Everyone:
	whoa. $440,000?!  for how many years now?
19:51:31 From Gloria Canson To Everyone:
	If we Turn to an Independent Monitor, what part will they play with PCCEP? How will it benefit PCCEP?
19:51:36 From Jake Dockter (he/him) To Everyone:
	thanks, Sarah.
19:53:08 From Tia Palafox, she/ her To Everyone:
	Either way...
19:53:32 From Tia Palafox, she/ her To Everyone:
	Sorry all, I am in my pajamas...
19:54:40 From PCCEP Portland To Everyone:
	We want to hear everyone's comments/questions on this important subject, as well as any open public comment, so we can go a few minutes late if necessary. Please stay with us at your discretion!
19:55:03 From Tia Palafox, she/ her To Everyone:
	GOT IT.  Thank you for your time.
19:55:32 From barb. rainish (she/her/Barb.) To Everyone:
	awe, no new DOJ?? haha
19:56:56 From PCCEP Portland To Everyone:
	I should have been more clear--I will leave it to the person asking the question to direct it to either Jared, Sarah, or both. Thank you!
19:56:57 From Jake Dockter (he/him) To Everyone:
	Agree with Dan. The COCL name includes Community Liaison and we'd love more of that.
19:57:31 From Amy Ruiz, COCL team, she/her To Everyone:
	Yes, Natalie and I both live here.
19:58:13 From Jake Dockter (he/him) To Everyone:
	Amy, how do we meet with you all and connect, per Dan's question?
19:58:25 From Ann Brayfield To Everyone:
	What is the processing and time needed to amend the settlement agreement to switch from the COCL model to an independent monitor?  With the current COCL retiring it seems to me that now would be the time to make this change.
20:00:42 From Amy Ruiz, COCL team, she/her To Everyone:
	You can reach the entire COCL team anytime at rosenbaumandassociatesllp@gmail.com; we also present the quarterly report in a Town Hall with public comment opportunities.
20:01:06 From Tia Palafox, she/ her To Everyone:
	Only Rosenbaum is retiring, their is still staff there.
20:01:24 From Tia Palafox, she/ her To Everyone:
	^there
20:04:35 From Gloria Canson To Everyone:
	I am in agreement Ann.I recommend that PCCEP move forward with an Independent Monitor
20:04:39 From barb. rainish (she/her/Barb.) To Everyone:
	That is my confusion, Tia.  I tried to ask above.
20:05:27 From Corinne Alfonsi-Frechette To Everyone:
	Will the community at large be engaged over the issue and in which format?
20:05:37 From Jared Hager - USDOJ (he/him) To Everyone:
	Tia and Barb:  Dr. Rosenbaum is the principal who directs Rosenbaum and Associates.  They are retiring.  A new COCL team will need to be retained by the City under the current Settlement Agreeemnt
20:05:45 From PCCEP Portland To Everyone:
	Rosenbaum & Associates as an entity will no longer be serving as the COCL come Dr. Rosenbaum's retirement.
20:05:55 From Ann Campbell (she,her) To Everyone:
	That is a great idea Ann
20:06:17 From barb. rainish (she/her/Barb.) To Everyone:
	maybethe community engagement subcommittee will take this on as a first priority....who is chairing that group?
20:06:52 From PCCEP Portland To Everyone:
	Tia and Ashley, both present tonight, are co-chairs of the Community Engagement subcommittee!
20:07:23 From barb. rainish (she/her/Barb.) To Everyone:
	GREAT!!!...hint hint
20:07:30 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP To Everyone:
	I’ll track this for the CE subcommittee projects!
20:08:27 From Tia Palafox, she/ her To Everyone:
	Ashley & Tia co chair Community Engagement.  I am wondering what happens to Amy Ruiz & Natalie & Watson if we go with independent monitoring.
20:08:50 From Jake Dockter (he/him) To Everyone:
	Can anyone from PCCEP let me know who would be best to engage with around ShotSpotter?
20:09:31 From barb. rainish (she/her/Barb.) To Everyone:
	Has PCCEP ever discussed shot spotter???
20:09:33 From PCCEP Portland To Everyone:
	Jake, I would suggest reaching out to the co-chairs of the full PCCEP. Pastor Wisner and Celeste are working on that subject.
20:09:47 From Jake Dockter (he/him) To Everyone:
	Thanks.
20:09:48 From barb. rainish (she/her/Barb.) To Everyone:
	good to know
20:10:26 From Jared Hager - USDOJ (he/him) To Everyone:
	Right backatcha, Pastor. And thank you Ann! Appreciate your leadership with this subcommittee.
20:10:29 From barb. rainish (she/her/Barb.) To Everyone:
	Next hearing is Feb 28...unless something changed...Reality check??
20:10:48 From Jared Hager - USDOJ (he/him) To Everyone:
	Correct Barb.  2/28 is the next Court hearing
20:11:13 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP To Everyone:
	The Community Engagement Subcommittee will be meeting next Wednesday, January 11 at 6 PM.
20:11:58 From Ann Campbell (she,her) To Everyone:
	Agreed Pastor Wisner
20:12:08 From Jared Hager - USDOJ (he/him) To Everyone:
	Thank you, Ashley!  I'll try to attend but may be double booked with the Training Advisory Council.  An unfortunate standing conflict apparently
20:12:09 From barb. rainish (she/her/Barb.) To Everyone:
	this means if PCCEP want to make a statement there...I hope it is already on your radar.    I agree Pastor, thank you all for your service
20:12:54 From barb. rainish (she/her/Barb.) To Everyone:
	ditto,jared re next week...I wish these didn't conflict
20:13:04 From Sarah Ames, she/her, Dep City Atty To Everyone:
	As Jared said, PCCEP may make recommendations to the City/PPB (and we must respond), to DOJ, AND the Court. The court hopes to hear from PCCEP regularly! We will keep you informed of the timeline and opportunity to present.
20:13:58 From barb. rainish (she/her/Barb.) To Everyone:
	Sarah.....what does that mean???
20:14:10 From Jared Hager - USDOJ (he/him) To Everyone:
	thank you DORI!!
20:14:17 From Nathan Castle To Everyone:
	Thank you everyone!