17:48:12 From Seemab (he/him) to Everyone: Greetings all. Seemab Hussaini with (but not on behalf of) the Police Accountability Commission. 17:49:23 From PCCEP Staff to Everyone: Reacted to "Greetings all. Seema..." with 👋🏻 17:57:30 From Maria Fiallos to Everyone: Hi, this is Maria interpreter. I think I need to be made a panelist? 18:04:34 From Seemab (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "Greetings all. Seema…" with 👋🏻 18:04:35 From Seemab (he/him) to Everyone: Removed a 👋🏻 reaction from "Greetings all. Seema…" 18:05:30 From Seemab (he/him) to Everyone: I would love to offer testimony. Pls let us know what we need to do to be called upon. 18:05:58 From PCCEP Staff to PCCEP Staff 2(Direct Message): Hi, thank you. Christopher is starting, but I'm unable to unmute my audio for when it is my turn. 18:06:00 From PCCEP Staff to PCCEP Staff 2(Direct Message): From Maria 18:07:00 From PCCEP Staff 1 to Everyone: Everyone is welcome and encouraged to provide testimony! When we get to that section, we will provide guidelines. No sign up necessary, you'll just need to raise your hand on Zoom. 18:07:07 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Seemab, we will give direction on that soon! 18:07:14 From Seemab (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "Seemab, we will give…" with 👌 18:07:17 From Seemab (he/him) to Everyone: Removed a 👌 reaction from "Seemab, we will give…" 18:07:19 From Aje she/they FTT to Everyone: Reacted to "I would love to offe…" with ❤️ 18:07:24 From Seemab (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "Seemab, we will give…" with ✊ 18:10:13 From PCCEP Staff 1 to Everyone: It is--thank you for reminding us to pin our interpreters. 18:11:40 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) to Everyone: Thank you so much for being here, Afrita and Teresa! 18:11:54 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) to Everyone: And to our awesome translators. 18:13:26 From Marc Poris (he/him) to Everyone: Important for people to know that there are members of Portland Police Bureau and the media in attendance. 18:14:23 From PCCEP Staff 3 to Everyone: Focused Intervention Team Community Oversight Group 18:14:55 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Replying to "Important for people..." thank you 18:16:57 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) to Everyone: Thanks, Celeste! 18:17:42 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "Thanks, Celeste!" with ❤️ 18:18:00 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Reacted to "Thanks, Celeste!" with 👏🏼 18:19:11 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Thank you so much Amanda for being here! 18:21:16 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) to Everyone: OJRC Shotspotter report from February 2023: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/524b5617e4b0b106ced5f067/t/63f3f77e0e124f3e227d8831/1676932992596/2023+Shotspotter+FINAL.pdf 18:24:08 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to PCCEP Staff 2(Direct Message): Dori, Was Jake going to be introduced, or just answer questions? Can they jump in whenever? 18:28:18 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: 386 killings where? all of Oregon? Not just in Portland... 18:30:12 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) to Everyone: Focused Intervention Team Community Oversight Group (FITCOG) Official Recommendation On the Implementation of ShotSpotter Technology as a Focused Deterrence Tool to Address Gun Violence in Portland July 18th, 2022: https://www.portland.gov/fitcog/documents/fitcog-shotspotter-recommendation/downloa 18:30:25 From Luna to Everyone: Replying to "386 killings where? …" I think that’s what she meant . Was total in the whole state. Police kill people but you can go days & weeks without hearing of the incident ! There was a Black man killed in Albany Oregon 2-3 1/2 weeks ago , and it took over a week for people to find out . Not acceptable 18:32:06 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Aje, can you slow down? 18:32:11 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) to Everyone: Thanks for that heads up!: https://www.portland.gov/fitcog/documents/fitcog-shotspotter-recommendation/download 18:32:31 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) to Everyone: Focused Intervention Team Community Oversight Group (FITCOG) Official Recommendation On the Implementation of ShotSpotter Technology as a Focused Deterrence Tool to Address Gun Violence in Portland July 18th, 2022: https://www.portland.gov/fitcog/documents/fitcog-shotspotter-recommendation/download 18:33:39 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: AJE! 18:33:45 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) to Everyone: Thank you so much, Aje and Amanda! So happy you are here. 18:33:46 From Angelita to Everyone: Thank you Aje. 18:33:56 From Elliott Young (He/Him) to Everyone: What she/they said. 18:34:09 From barb. rainish to Everyone: ^^^^ 18:34:27 From Sophia Newman, International League of People's Struggle to Everyone: ^^^^ 18:34:35 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "What she/they said." with ❤️ 18:34:37 From Julie Pagano to Everyone: Reacted to "What she/they said." with ❤️ 18:34:43 From Julie Pagano to Everyone: Removed a ❤️ reaction from "What she/they said." 18:34:48 From Candace Avalos to Everyone: Reacted to "What she/they said." with ❤️ 18:36:31 From Ann Campbell (she,her) to Everyone: Thanks Amanda and Aje 18:37:03 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Replying to "386 killings where? ..." Yes in Oregon, sorry I meant to say this number was over the past 10 years, sorry was speaking fast and trying to get a lot in 18:37:17 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Reacted to "What she/they said." with ❤️ 18:38:15 From Julie Pagano to Everyone: Reacted to "What she/they said." with ❤️ 18:38:22 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: PCCEP has a member on that evaluation committee. 18:38:38 From Patricia Ford to Everyone: This will only target blacks and browns. What happened to body cameras being used? 18:38:42 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: @ Tia My apologies! I didn’t see the chat. 18:39:24 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: Reacted to "This will only targe…" with ❤️ 18:40:16 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Replying to "@ Tia My apologies! ..." thanks... I have a brain injury... 18:40:32 From trishgarner to Everyone: Is Captain Jensen going to make a presentation? 18:40:43 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: Replying to "This will only targe…" THANK YOU ‼️‼️‼️ even Gresham police have body cams, why are PPB exempt?! They can’t say it was because “no money” they dropped 25+? Million dollars on a new spy plane 18:40:45 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Gunshot detection company investigated for possible violations of Portland lobbying laws: https://www.opb.org/article/2023/02/17/portland-oregon-shot-spotter-shotspotter-gunshot-detection-technology-police/ 18:40:50 From Celeste Carey to Everyone: @ Patricia Ford, Body Worn Cams (BWC) implementation current stalled. Portland Police Assn (police union) and the City declared an impasse. 18:40:56 From PCCEP Staff 1 to Everyone: Jake Jensen will not be making opening comments but is available for questions 18:41:13 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Folks have been asking about my sources, some of the stats are here: https://www.portlandcopwatch.org/OR_shootings_letter0223.pdf 18:41:46 From KM to Everyone: Thanks Aje! 18:41:48 From Sophia, International League of People's Struggle to Everyone: Reacted to "THANK YOU ‼️‼️‼️ eve..." with ☝️ 18:41:49 From Angelita to Everyone: Reacted to "Folks have been aski..." with ❤️ 18:42:14 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Reacted to "Folks have been aski..." with ❤️ 18:42:18 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Replying to "Folks have been aski..." Thank u - I didn't catch your 386 #, where those were. 18:42:40 From Corinne Frechette to Everyone: Reacted to "Folks have been aski..." with ❤️ 18:43:02 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Contact PCCEP at PCCEPinfo@portlandoregon.gov 18:43:28 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Make sure to visit the revised PCCEP “Get Involved” page. You can find links to leave written public comment and agenda input. We also a phone number where people can leave PCCEP verbal public comment: https://www.portland.gov/pccep/about-us/pccep-get-involved 18:43:58 From Kala to Everyone: Hello, My name is Kala Franklin, I am an interested community member. I wanted to give public testimony regarding Portland’s interest in purchasing Gunshot technology. I believe there is good intentions behind those interested in deploying Gunshot technology, I find that it lacks the much needed features such as cameras. I think Portland would better benefit from investing in a similar system deployed by the Gresham Police Department. I also think that the money would be better spent on infrastructure improvements in neighborhoods experiencing high rates of gun violence. 18:45:00 From Kala to Everyone: I hope it’s okay to leave my public testimony in the chat, I genuinely appreciate the invite to tonight’s meeting. 18:45:25 From PCCEP Staff 1 to Everyone: Thank you, Kala! 18:46:43 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Besides taking notes, we also will keep a copy of the chats... 18:46:50 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Thanks, Luna! 18:46:55 From PCCEP Staff 1 to Everyone: Thank you Luna! 18:46:57 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Replying to "Folks have been aski..." Data collected from 2010-2022: ___Totals: ---386 incidents involving 391 civilians*-4    ----367 shootings, 195 ending in death (53%) ----9 Taser-related deaths                    [no change]*-5 ----5 deaths in custody                       [no change] ----4 vehicles as deadly force, 3 ending in death    [no change] 18:47:03 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Thank u Luna, good points. 18:47:09 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Replying to "Hello, My name is ..." Kala, thanks for this feedback. Some of the companies who have submitted bids for this program do utilize cameras. The fact that we have been asked to provide feedback without knowing the details is part of our concern. Why aren’t we being informed of the specifics? 18:48:47 From Janel (she/her) Hovde to Everyone: Replying to "Besides taking notes…" Thank you. How will it be distributed? 18:49:03 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Replying to "Besides taking notes..." We are compiling & presenting to to the City. And we will say more at the end here... 18:49:20 From Janel (she/her) Hovde to Everyone: Reacted to "We are compiling & p…" with 👍 18:49:26 From PCCEP Staff 1 to Everyone: Replying to "Besides taking notes..." Chat transcripts for every PCCEP event can be found at the event pages on our website. 18:49:43 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: 2 minutes goes fast!! 18:49:44 From Chris Piekarski (he/him) - CRC to Everyone: I'm curious what police response rates are when there are calls to 911 about shots heard in a neighborhood. My thought is that if there is a lack of responsiveness to those types of calls, I wonder whether there is any reason to believe that surveillance technology will result in increased police protection/investigation. 18:49:54 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: BTW Michael Williams is the person whose name I forgot who is suing shot-putter & the city of chicago 18:51:18 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Thanks, Mel. Thanks, Trish! 18:51:28 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: Reacted to "Thanks, Luna!" with ❤️ 18:51:32 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: Reacted to "Thank you Luna!" with ❤️ 18:51:38 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: Reacted to "Thank u Luna, good p…" with ❤️ 18:52:03 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Jake, is FITCOG meetings open to the public? 18:52:20 From PCCEP Staff 3 to Everyone: Replying to "Jake, is FITCOG meet..." The first half of each meeting is an open public meeting. 18:52:22 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: Thanks Mel for mentioning a few things I forgot 💕 you’re a rockstar ‼️ 18:52:24 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Also I mentioned CPTED, here’s the binding city policy I mentioned if folks want to find out more. It applies to housing specifically: https://www.portland.gov/policies/environment-built/crime-prevention-through-environmental-design-cpted/enb-2201-crime 18:52:37 From KC Lewis to Everyone: Why is the second half of the FITCOG meeting not open to the public? 18:52:43 From PCCEP Staff 3 to Everyone: Replying to "Jake, is FITCOG meet..." The second half of each FITCOG meeting is a confidential briefing with the FIT. 18:52:51 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: “Protecting civil rights?!” PPB DONT DO THAT NOW WHY IS A SHOT SPOTTER GONNA INCREASE THAT CHANCE ?! 18:53:00 From Jake Jensen, PPB to Everyone: FITCOG Page: https://www.portland.gov/fitcog 18:53:04 From Amanda Lamb, OJRC to Everyone: I’d also like to address the last question 18:53:06 From Celeste Carey to Everyone: @PCCEP...I just received a question: Q: why is ShotSpotter still considered as candidate for the RFP, or have they been disqualified? Thank you 18:53:12 From Julie Pagano to Everyone: The community-focused portion of the FITCOG meeting also got increasingly locked down against community participation as it got more attention about the shotspotter recommendation. 18:53:13 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: Reacted to "Why is the second ha…" with ‼️ 18:53:16 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Thank u Trish & Jake and yes, Amanda - raise your hand... 18:53:18 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Replying to "Why is the second ha..." Members signed an NDA. Hard to see that as community oversight. 18:53:25 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: https://psuvanguard.com/portland-police-havent-changed/ 18:53:26 From jane doesen to Everyone: Reacted to "Why is the second ha…" with 👍 18:53:34 From PCCEP Staff 1 to Everyone: @OJRC yes, we can return to you for that last question. 18:53:51 From jane doesen to Everyone: Removed a 👍 reaction from "Why is the second ha…" 18:54:03 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Reacted to "Why is the second ha..." with ‼️ 18:54:15 From jane doesen to Everyone: Reacted to "Why is the second ha…" with ⁉️ 18:55:13 From Julie Pagano to Everyone: Replying to "Why is the second ha..." It’s been a while since I attended because they removed most community participation, but over the summer I recall some discussions at the meeting that their name is kind of misleading. They don’t really see themselves as oversight. 18:55:16 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Yes, thank you Beatrix for offering alternatives... 18:55:33 From Stephanie Howard to Everyone: I think the statement was that the FITCOG is a community org, not ShotSpotter. 18:55:55 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Stephanie, thank you. Didn’t chcat that. 18:55:57 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: catch* 18:56:23 From PCCEP Staff 1 to Everyone: We will go to Amanda next to respond to the last attendee's comment 18:56:26 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: The question was around city council not listening to the public 18:56:31 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Not around community orgs 18:56:33 From Sophia, International League of People's Struggle to Everyone: Reacted to "The question was aro..." with ☝️ 18:56:36 From Kala to Everyone: Replying to "Hello, My name is …" Wow, I didn’t know there was bids from companies that use cameras. I think that’s one of the more important factors in helping reducing gun violence within impacted neighborhoods. Without actual evidence such as vehicle description or suspect identification it’s a waste to install such technology. Thank you very much for sharing this information with me! 18:56:45 From David Balgley to Everyone: I think the question was what will the the city council do if 95% of public comment is against shotspotter 18:56:51 From Sophia, International League of People's Struggle to Everyone: Reacted to "I think the question..." with ☝️ 18:57:03 From Kate to Everyone: Reacted to "I think the question..." with ☝️ 18:57:05 From Kate to Everyone: Removed a ☝️ reaction from "I think the question..." 18:57:09 From Natalia Ochmanek to Everyone: Reacted to "I think the question…" with ☝️ 18:57:17 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Can I also respond to the same question Amanda is responding to? 18:57:21 From Kate to Everyone: Reacted to "I think the question..." with ☝️ 18:58:12 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: I’ve already been targeted by PPB & what happens if I’m in the wrong place wrong time?!?! I AM ALSO a concealed carry permit holder, so if I’m somewhere where a shot goes off, they stop me, you think they’re gonna be like “oh your hood Ms Lady, go about your business!” Absolutely NOT ‼️ they’re gonna take my weapon & I could potentially get charged for something I didn’t do until forensics comes back ‼️ & im sure PPB doesn’t want me to slap another lawsuit on them 😭 they’ll continue to target me 18:58:38 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: I’ve already been targeted by PPB & what happens if I’m in the wrong place wrong time?!?! I AM ALSO a concealed carry permit holder, so if I’m somewhere where a shot goes off, they stop me, you think they’re gonna be like “oh your hood Ms Lady, go about your business!” Absolutely NOT ‼️ they’re gonna take my weapon & I could potentially get charged for something I didn’t do until forensics comes back ‼️ & im sure PPB doesn’t want me to slap another lawsuit on them 😭 they’ll continue to target me Good** not hood 18:59:06 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Stephanie, If 95 out of 100 people vote against GDT & the City still votes for it, was Beatrix' comment/question. 19:00:38 From Jake Jensen, PPB to Everyone: I do want to be clear that Amanda is right. A ShotSpotter alert, on its own, does not create any grounds to stop, arrest, or detain a person. This information would be included in our policies related to this pilot, should we go forward with it. 19:00:48 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: Ofc Jensen — did you sit through a PPB training that featured the ‘alt knight’ slide from Sargeant McDaniel? 19:01:03 From Stephanie Howard to Everyone: I don't speak for what city Council will do, but I can say with certainty that community input is critically important to all council offices on this topic in particular. I also forgot to note earlier that we are working with Portland State on a community survey to ensure we are making providing input as widely available as possible. 19:01:51 From Karina & Megan to Everyone: Thank you Stephanie 19:01:53 From Jake Jensen, PPB to Everyone: Zach--no. 19:02:25 From Kala to Everyone: Reacted to "I don't speak for wh…" with 👍 19:03:11 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Please keep stating or writing ALTERNATIVE ideas you have. Lighting in parks, neighborhoods, traffic barrels, funding in other areas... 19:03:39 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: aren’t they removing lights from parks tho? 19:03:50 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: Replying to "aren’t they removing…" They sure are lol 19:04:09 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Here is the City of Chicago report both Marina and I mentioned: https://igchicago.org/2021/08/24/oig-finds-that-shotspotter-alerts-rarely-lead-to-evidence-of-a-gun-related-crime-and-that-presence-of-the-technology-changes-police-behavior/ 19:04:10 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Reacted to "Here is the City of ..." with 👎🏼 19:04:15 From Mel to Everyone: Replying to "aren’t they removing..." https://www.portland.gov/parks/news/2023/2/22/portland-parks-recreation-removes-older-park-light-posts-plans-replacement#:~:text=Portland%20Parks%20%26%20Recreation%20(PP%26R),Wednesday%2C%20February%2022%2C%202023. 19:04:17 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Removed a 👎🏼 reaction from "Here is the City of ..." 19:04:27 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: Replying to "aren’t they removing…" Cause they can’t keep them on , they’re “out of money” ….. after approving the money for a new spy plane lol 19:04:30 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: Replying to "aren’t they removing..." https://www.wweek.com/news/city/2023/02/22/243-light-poles-across-12-city-parks-will-soon-vanish/ 19:04:44 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Here is the City of Chicago report both Marina and I mentioned: https://igchicago.org/2021/08/24/oig-finds-that-shotspotter-alerts-rarely-lead-to-evidence-of-a-gun-related-crime-and-that-presence-of-the-technology-changes-police-behavior/ Actually here is the direct link: https://igchicago.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Chicago-Police-Departments-Use-of-ShotSpotter-Technology.pdf 19:04:53 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "Here is the City of ..." with ❤️ 19:05:06 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "aren’t they removing..." with 👍 19:05:11 From Julie Pagano to Everyone: I’ve repeatedly heard about horribly long 911 wait times in Portland, one of the tools for humans to report gunshots (not to mention a myriad of other issues). Seems like that would be a better place to spend the ridiculously high costs of tools like shotspotter. 19:06:11 From Janel (she/her) Hovde to Everyone: Reacted to "I’ve repeatedly hear…" with 👍 19:08:00 From Sophia, International League of People's Struggle to Everyone: With shotspotter, the police responding to alerts will also arrive on scene believing that they are entering a live gunfire scenario, making them much more ready to retaliate with force due to heightened adrenaline and fear for their own safety. That is a recipe for police brutality. 19:08:27 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Shameless plug- for folks wanting to continue this conversation we’re hosting a community forum on surveillance on March 14th: https://twitter.com/tsnvaa/status/1631018492269846529 19:08:38 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: https://www.pdxprivacy.org/2023/02/28/stop-surveillance-community-forum/ 19:08:48 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Replying to "I’ve repeatedly hear..." More funding to BOEC? I wonder if we could hire more 911 dispatchers, I noted it. 19:09:25 From Kat to Everyone: Replying to "I’ve repeatedly hear..." BOEC released some news today that response times will be faster. I did not get a chance to read the whole article but it sounds like they were able to onboard some new folks recently. 19:09:33 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Stephanie, I think one of Bryon’s questions is if the company would take away the equipment after the year vs keeping it up while you access the data. Can you answer to that? 19:09:51 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Reacted to "Stephanie, I think o..." with 👍🏼 19:10:02 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Reacted to "Stephanie, I think o..." with 👍🏼 19:10:03 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: if anyone is curious, gun detection technology is just a piece of the Military Industrial Complex and a growing profitable arm… https://finance.yahoo.com/news/worldwide-gunshot-detection-system-industry-200000233.html 19:10:16 From iPhoneSanga to Everyone: Reacted to "if anyone is curious…" with ✊🏽 19:10:24 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: “The U.S. Market is Estimated at $199.2 Million” 19:10:31 From PCCEP Staff 3 to Everyone: Replying to "I’ve repeatedly hear..." This is an article on the Bureau of Emergency Communications (BOEC)'s statement that response times will be faster: https://katu.com/news/local/wait-times-for-911-calls-going-down-in-portland-thanks-to-more-staff 19:10:49 From Mike Sargetakis to Everyone: Reacted to "I’ve repeatedly hear…" with 👍 19:10:50 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Reacted to "This is an article o..." with 👍🏼 19:10:51 From Byron Vaughn to Everyone: Thank you Stephanie you did thank you 19:10:51 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Reacted to "if anyone is curious..." with ✊🏽 19:11:02 From Stephanie Howard to Everyone: got it - I assume that any equipment would be removed if it is no longer being used by the City. 19:11:03 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Reacted to "BOEC released some n..." with ❤️ 19:11:09 From Julie Pagano to Everyone: Reacted to "This is an article o..." with 👍🏼 19:11:56 From Scott Latta to Everyone: Sorry if I missed this, but has anyone mentioned how much the one-year pilot would cost and in which neighborhood(s) it might be? 19:12:09 From Candace Avalos to Everyone: I second that KC 19:12:20 From Kat to Everyone: Thank you KC! 19:12:41 From Julie Pagano to Everyone: I’d also love to know what the price tag for the pilot looks like. The FITCOG recommendation included next to nothing about costs. 19:12:45 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Yes to that KC but not just shotspotter, all gunshot detection technology! 19:12:47 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Replying to "Sorry if I missed th..." No. We don’t know where, how much, who will oversee, success metrics, etc. 19:13:00 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Thanks, KC! 19:13:06 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "Yes to that KC but n..." with 👍 19:13:10 From KC Lewis to Everyone: Reacted to "Yes to that KC but..." with 👍 19:13:21 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Thanks KC & Seemab… 19:13:39 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Stephanie, can you share the cost for the pilot and the following launch? 19:16:21 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Good ideas Seemab 19:16:45 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Thank you, Edie for your work and care for our community. 19:17:18 From Dr. Ronning to Everyone: If we use the analogy that violence is a disease needing to be cured, then eliminating palliative care is unethical and irresponsible. 19:17:22 From Stephanie Howard to Everyone: The cost varies by the type of tech, but I can say with certainty that the City has no intention of spending anywhere near a million dollars on a pilot. 19:18:04 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: Whoever was just speaking previously: That was an amazing alternative ! The UK also has way way less police killings than America 19:18:12 From Julie Pagano to Everyone: Stephanie, apologies if I missed this, but can you clarify if Shotspotter is still being considered as an option after the concerns about the ethics of their lobbying. 19:18:35 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Dr Running are you suggesting that overpolicing is equivalent to palliative care? 19:18:41 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: **Ronning, apologies 19:19:23 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "Dr Running are you s..." with 👍 19:19:40 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Or is it police surveillance that’s “palliative”? 19:19:42 From Chris to Everyone: Is violence really the disease or rather a symptom of another disease/problem? 19:20:02 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Maybe it’s palliative in the way that Mercury was considered palliative care before we knew better. 19:20:11 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: But now we know it’s poison 19:21:45 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Great question, Aje. 19:21:49 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: “ShotSpotter Employees Not Only Have The Power To Alter Gunshot Reports, But Do It Nearly 10% Of The Time” https://www.techdirt.com/2023/02/01/shotspotter-employees-not-only-have-the-power-to-alter-gunshot-reports-but-do-it-nearly-10-of-the-time/ 19:21:51 From Dr. Ronning to Everyone: People who are being murdered now or who are at risk of victimization do not have the luxury of time to solve for the complex root causes of violence. The issue of violence is not limited to policing. We have yet to have the harder conversation...the one that acknowledges the crises on the streets. The double edged sword of concerns of policing and street violence. 19:22:52 From Julie Pagano to Everyone: Shotspotter (and tech like it) is not a solution to that violence either. As many have noted, it doesn’t stop shootings. 19:23:12 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Dr Running are you suggesting that overpolicing is a reasonable price to pay for the allusion of safety? Because as already has been mentioned, we already know it doesn’t stop gun violence. 19:23:38 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: **Ronning apologies autocorrect is not cooperating 19:23:48 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Thank you Sisters of The Road for being here. 19:25:21 From Candace Avalos to Everyone: Great job Kat 19:25:26 From Karina & Megan to Everyone: Thank you Kat 19:25:40 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Appreciate you Kat. 19:25:48 From Chris (they/them) to Everyone: Thank you Kat 19:25:57 From jane doesen to Everyone: 👏👏👏👏👏👏kat! 19:27:03 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Stephanie, Jake, Amanda, can you answer some of those questions? 19:28:11 From Amanda Lamb, OJRC to Everyone: Replying to "Stephanie, Jake, Ama…" I think those are governance questions for the city to answer. I have some of the same questions. 19:28:25 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Replying to "Stephanie, Jake, Ama..." 👍🏼 19:28:35 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: I also go by Je in case folks are confused about who Jake is referring to 19:28:48 From Stephanie Howard to Everyone: I will be happy to answer questions from Jake 19:28:50 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: I assume Jake Jensen and not me. 19:28:54 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: To boost my question to Stephanie: how will it be measurable that City Council will listen to the community? For example, like here if 100% or say, 95% of community members are against SS, how will this affect the vote? 19:29:04 From Sophia, International League of People's Struggle to Everyone: Reacted to "To boost my question..." with ☝️ 19:29:13 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Reacted to "To boost my question..." with ☝️ 19:29:16 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Removed a ☝️ reaction from "To boost my question..." 19:29:41 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "I also go by Je in c..." with ❤️ 19:29:52 From PCCEP Staff 1 to Everyone: Community members may give testimony more than once/raise their hands again to ask questions! 19:30:02 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Reacted to "To boost my question..." with ☝️ 19:30:20 From Dr. Ronning to Everyone: Your definition of over-policing ignores real harms on the street that do not magically disappear by throwing services at people. Please feel free to address how we interrupt immediate trigger pullers now. I am not invested in any one solution, but I have not heard any meaningful solution from opponents. Public safety is a fundamental need for all, and thus non-negotiable. There will not be a meeting of the minds on this issue among the greater community until a solution can mutually satisfy concerns on all sides. 19:30:40 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Reacted to "To boost my question..." with ☝️ 19:30:44 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Removed a ☝️ reaction from "To boost my question..." 19:30:46 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Reacted to "To boost my question..." with ☝️ 19:30:56 From Julie Pagano to Everyone: Useful context for other folks that Dr. Ronning is a member of FITCOG who was a contributor to the original recommendation. 19:31:05 From Jack (they/them) to Everyone: Reacted to "Useful context for o..." with 👏 19:31:11 From PCCEP Staff 1 to Everyone: Replying to "To boost my question..." You may raise your hand to ask questions, FYI! We don't have a great system to ask chat questions out loud. 19:32:46 From Jake Jensen, PPB to PCCEP Staff 2(Direct Message): I think Stephanie is going to answer Yume's question, but FYI I was trying to unmute and the system wouldn't let me. 19:32:59 From Kat to Everyone: This kind of tech is REACTIVE, not PROACTIVE. I’d rather we work towards alleviating the root causes of scarcity, separation, isolation, desperation, and what may lead someone to use a violent means… I do not want PPB being Peeping Toms. 19:33:15 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: I assume Jake Jensen and not me. Useful context for other folks that Dr. Ronning is a member of FITCOG who was a contributor to the original recommendation. And the one that advocated for abundance mindsets around police Your definition of over-policing ignores real harms on the street that do not magically disappear by throwing services at people. Please feel free to address how we interrupt immediate trigger pullers now. I am not invested in any one solution, but I have not heard any meaningful solution from opponents. Public safety is a fundamental need for all, and thus non-negotiable. There will not be a meeting of the minds on this issue among the greater community until a solution can mutually satisfy concerns on all sides. Lights, traffic barrels, greening communities all have immediate effects on violence and could be implemented in a weekend, as already stated multiple times throughout this. Meanwhile Shotspotter does NOT interrupt immediate trigger pulls. It sends alerts after the shot’s been fired. 19:33:27 From KC Lewis to Everyone: gee I wonder if any of those square miles will be in the West Hills/Eastmoreland 19:33:35 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: BUDGET?? 19:33:54 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: no one wants to answer that… 19:34:30 From Stephanie Howard to Everyone: Budget depends on the type of technology. It varies significantly. 19:34:42 From Candace Avalos to Everyone: Reacted to "gee I wonder if any ..." with 👀 19:34:51 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: ShotSpotter FAQ from 2018 says: ‘The cost for ShotSpotter is $65-90k per square mile per year, with a $10K per square mile one-time Service Initiation fee.’ . Different Cities report different operation costs that go from about $200K to several million dollars. 19:35:25 From Avel to Everyone: no shotspotter and keep the lights on in public parks 19:35:46 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Replying to "Budget depends on th..." And will it be out of the city budget & taxpayers too? 19:36:08 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Replying to "Your definition of o..." Dr. Ronning, your statement seems to carry a heavy bias with the term “throwing services at people.” No one is advocating for that but I hear people asking for and advocating for material and substantive programs that are evidenced based. These gunshot detection systems are not evidence based and a poor use of funding. I think it should also be noted that you state you are not invested in any one solution but are a member of the FITCOG who has been shown to be working with ShotSpotter and who wrote a recommendation for ShotSpotter specifically. I also disagree that we need to find a solution that meets concerns on all sides. I, personally, am not interested in the concerns of a law enforcement entity shown to use racial profiling and brutality as a matter of business. 19:36:11 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: Interesting that the city can pull out millions of dollars for REACTIVE and racist tech like spy plan and gun detection — but no money for lights or housing or food or like anything that actually materially improves pols lives. 19:36:36 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Thanks, Lisa! 19:36:36 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: The new surveillance plane for PPB was about $1 million dollars. 19:36:39 From Yume Delegato, Citizen Review Committee (he/him) to Everyone: Thank you Stephanie & Cpt Jensen. Follow-Up Question: does the RFP envision this pilot to be primarily staffed by FIT (who at least has a dedicated mission but is not 24/7) or will this fall to precinct officers? 19:36:49 From Michelle to Everyone: Hi, I am a community member and am against Shotspotter and these gun detection surveillance systems. There are many reasons why not to do this—I’ll focus on one single reason right now. The FITCOG recommendation is based on the belief that police will follow civil rights laws. This has not been my experience. I own a condominium that is governed by an HOA. I was informed by the board president that the HOA camera policy is based on a board meeting. Police were invited to the meeting and they informed the board on “everything they needed to know.” This led to hidden cameras recording private conversations throughout the property and police given 24-7 real time access to the camera system. The owners and residents weren’t informed. I found out only recently by accident and have had to agitate for every shred of information. 19:36:54 From Dr. Ronning to Everyone: Do you truly believe barrels interrupt and deter gang and/or gang-affiliated violence? Or crimes of passion. Crime is complex To understand what strategies are helpful we must understand the underlying motivations and deterrence. Different forms of violence require different approaches. 19:36:54 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "Hi, I am a community..." with 👏 19:37:57 From KC Lewis to Everyone: the data shows the barrels were in fact effective 19:38:10 From Julie Pagano to Everyone: and that shotspotter is not 19:38:15 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Do you truly believe barrels interrupt and deter gang and/or gang-affiliated violence? Or crimes of passion. Crime is complex To understand what strategies are helpful we must understand the underlying motivations and deterrence. Different forms of violence require different approaches. Are you actually looking at the data or reacting from emotion? 19:38:24 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Replying to "the data shows the b..." They are helping next to Jefferson High 19:38:25 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "Do you truly believe..." with 👏 19:38:27 From Kat to Everyone: Do you truly believe barrels interrupt and deter gang and/or gang-affiliated violence? Or crimes of passion. Crime is complex To understand what strategies are helpful we must understand the underlying motivations and deterrence. Different forms of violence require different approaches. Yes. 19:38:27 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "Do you truly believe..." with 👍 19:38:34 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Removed a 👍 reaction from "Do you truly believe..." 19:39:10 From Pamela Fitzsimmons to Everyone: Reacted to "Do you truly believe…" with 👍 19:39:44 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Dr. Ronning, on your comment on traffic barrels not deterring gun violence: here is the data refuting this. https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/traffic-barrels-gun-violence-prevention/283-5baf4743-e82a-4005-8e79-1c7b489d65eb 19:39:47 From Michelle to Everyone: I called and made a police report with Officer Vosu Report 23-18473. In my telephone conversation he said he had no knowledge about the cameras (I don’t believe him) while at the same time stating that the property was public space (it isn’t, it’s common areas of an HOA, I’m one of the private owners) and therefore ok to audio record people. This is NOT what 165.540 says, Vosu was either ignorant or arguing in bad faith. 19:40:00 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: It is documented that PPB staff colluded with ShotSpotter. Why has there been no investigation or accountability into that? 19:40:01 From Pamela Fitzsimmons to Everyone: I’m opposed to Shot Spotter, but not for the reasons stated here in this pile-on. Victims of gun violence are disproportionately “people of color.” If you are a person of color and hear a gun shot and don’t want to call the cops, don’t. If you want to call the police, go ahead. Your choice. 19:40:40 From Kat to Everyone: https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2022/03/se-portland-neighborhood-sees-64-drop-in-shootings-amid-traffic-calming-program-commissioner-jo-ann-hardesty-says.html 19:41:34 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Thank you International League of People's Struggles for being here! 19:41:38 From Candace Avalos to Everyone: Reacted to "Hi, I am a community..." with 😡 19:41:44 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: Reacted to "gee I wonder if any …" with 😂 19:41:56 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: Replying to "gee I wonder if any …" Good one 🤣🤣 19:42:03 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "gee I wonder if any ..." with 😂 19:42:19 From PCCEP Staff 1 to Everyone: We will be right back--looking forward to more of your testimony and questions! Please stay with us! 19:43:06 From PCCEP Staff 1 to Everyone: Members of the public who have asked questions in the chat but have already provided testimony may also get back in the queue for those questions. 19:44:20 From Celeste Carey to Everyone: Traffic calming measures, like traffic barrels do work and do help reduce various forms of crime. These types of measures are used world wide (I've attended conferences with pub safety folks from all over). The study of CPTED addresses human behavior and modifications, is cost effective, helps build community and enhances interpersonal interaction. All of these measures are proven to reduce violence and crime. 19:45:24 From Pastor Robin Wisner to Everyone: Reacted to "Do you truly believe..." with 👍 19:45:53 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: It is concerning that a member of FITCOG, the group shown to have worked closely with ShotSpotter, is in this meeting speaking so rudely to community members and in such a pro-GDS stance and in such an anti-evidence based way. 19:46:53 From Kat to Everyone: Thank you Celeste 19:47:00 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "Thank you Celeste" with 👍 19:47:03 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "Traffic calming meas..." with 👍 19:47:22 From Kala to Everyone: Replying to "Traffic calming meas…" Hi Celeste ! I wanted to confirm that this is what you are describing? https://www.pinterest.com/pin/184718022203658834/ 19:50:23 From Candace Avalos to Everyone: Reacted to "It is concerning tha..." with 💯 19:51:12 From Stephanie Howard to Everyone: Wanted to note that Parks and the Portland Environment Management Office are working to increase lighting and address the lampposts that have to be removed from some parks for safety reasons. Increased lighting is a CPTED design approach we are currently implementing throughout the city. 19:51:40 From Celeste Carey to Everyone: Replying to "Traffic calming meas..." Yes...although there are also less obstructive and intrusive measures as well. 19:52:17 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Reacted to "It is concerning tha..." with 💯 19:52:48 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Reacted to "It is concerning tha..." with 💯 19:52:54 From Chris (they/them) to Everyone: Reacted to "It is concerning tha..." with 💯 19:53:14 From Kala to Everyone: Reacted to "Yes...although there…" with 👍 19:53:23 From Chris (they/them) to Everyone: Reacted to "Traffic calming meas..." with 👍 19:53:31 From KC Lewis to Everyone: Reacted to "It is concerning t..." with 💯 19:54:36 From Dr. Ronning to Everyone: @celeste I absolutely support environmental design but I have not seen evidence that it is effective in interrupting gang violence which is the elephant in the room. 19:54:37 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: PCCEP is trying very hard to bring your voices to the leaders, but we hear you. 19:54:40 From Edie to Everyone: Portlanders have been calling for police accountability and alternatives to police since 1960’s. 19:54:46 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: This. 19:55:15 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: 👏👏👏 19:55:40 From Edie to Everyone: For centuries Americans have shown what works to prevent crime and what worsens it. Police, surveillance, prisons don’t work 19:55:54 From Chris (they/them) to Everyone: Reacted to "Portlanders have bee..." with 💯 19:55:58 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: can someone respond to them? 19:56:01 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: Stephanie? 19:56:13 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: Jensen? 19:56:19 From Sophia, International League of People's Struggle to Everyone: Agreed can Stephanie please respond to the previous speaker? 19:56:23 From Lisa Wright to Everyone: @Stephanie continued disinvestment in parks is a long term trend. In 2019 (I think, not sure what the budget year it was), the city gutted parks staff with a promise to “fix the funding.” One example of many. Same with Friends of Trees. City Council takes away things that make the community better and the PPB continues to get more funding. 19:56:36 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: @celeste I absolutely support environmental design but I have not seen evidence that it is effective in interrupting gang violence which is the elephant in the room. Child maltreatment, parent-child separation, and poverty are the biggest causes of gang violence and the best ways to address it 19:56:50 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: can we please not ignore Black women? 19:56:56 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "can we please not ig..." with ❤️ 19:57:00 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: Reacted to "can we please not ig…" with ❤️ 19:57:01 From Lisa Wright to Everyone: Reacted to "can we please not ig..." with ❤️ 19:57:02 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Reacted to "can we please not ig..." with ❤️ 19:57:18 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "@Stephanie continued..." with ❤️ 19:57:25 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Reacted to "can we please not ig..." with ❤️ 19:57:36 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: Replying to "can we please not ig…" HELLO‼️ they don’t think we or our voices matter though 😅 19:57:47 From iPhoneSanga to Everyone: Can my questions be Answered 19:58:07 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "Can my questions be ..." with ❤️ 19:58:09 From Lisa Wright to Everyone: Reacted to "Can my questions be ..." with ❤️ 19:58:11 From Chris (they/them) to Everyone: Reacted to "Can my questions be ..." with ❤️ 19:58:16 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Replying to "Can my questions be ..." Echo this ask. 19:58:25 From Julie Pagano to Everyone: Reacted to "can we please not ig..." with ❤️ 19:58:39 From Lisa Wright to Everyone: Replying to "Can my questions be ..." Uplift this request 19:58:40 From KC Lewis to Everyone: I am curious why FITCOG did not have any opportunity for community input before they made their recommendation 19:58:43 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: IPhoneSanga PCCEP hear's you today, Is the You to us hosting? Or to the City? 19:58:45 From PCCEP Staff 1 to Everyone: Replying to "Can my questions be ..." We will direct the facilitators to this. Thank you. 19:59:38 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Reacted to "We will direct the f..." with 👍🏼 19:59:40 From Yume Delegato, Citizen Review Committee (he/him) to Everyone: Replying to "Can my questions be ..." My question is technical, so please allow the panel to address this question first! 19:59:40 From Michelle to Everyone: @sanga I agree about the city’s unresponsiveness. They ignore us and don’t care. 19:59:55 From Ria Ward to Everyone: Reacted to "Can my questions be …" with ❤️ 20:00:27 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "@sanga I agree about..." with 👍 20:01:00 From PCCEP Staff 1 to Everyone: Replying to "Can my questions be ..." Hi Yume, I apologize, we may have missed your question in the chat. Can you restate? You are also welcome to get back in the queue to ask questions. 20:01:21 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "I am curious why FIT..." with 👍 20:01:34 From PCCEP Staff 1 to Everyone: The facilitators will be asking that Sanga's question be addressed next 20:01:47 From iPhoneSanga to Everyone: Can My Question Be Answered 20:01:54 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: 🙏 20:01:58 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Teresa, their name is no iPhone. It is Santa. 20:02:10 From PCCEP Staff 1 to Everyone: FYI we are having technical issues with the timer and will be dropping it for now 20:02:16 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: *Sanga 20:02:31 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Yes, Sanga! Darn autocorrect. 20:02:48 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Replying to "I am curious why FIT..." In multiple FITCOG meetings I witnessed Dre Miller, Beatrix Li, and Teressa Raifford asking specifically for a community session and were told by FITCOG leaders that that would come later in the process, around the RFP. They did seek counsel from 4 outside groups, non based in Portland prior to their recommendation. 20:02:50 From Candace Avalos to Everyone: Replying to "I am curious why FIT..." They didn't think they needed it. That's what I gathered when I asked them the same question directly. 20:02:58 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "They didn't think th..." with 👍 20:03:07 From Lauren to Everyone: Reacted to "They didn't think th…" with 👍 20:03:07 From Michelle to Everyone: @Stephanie Lol 20:03:09 From Lisa Wright to Everyone: Reacted to "They didn't think th..." with 👍 20:03:10 From iPhoneSanga to Everyone: You still didn’t answer the question! 20:03:11 From Julie Pagano to Everyone: Reacted to "They didn't think th..." with 👍 20:03:11 From KC Lewis to Everyone: your boss shut down a public meeting this morning because he didn't like what people were saying 20:03:19 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Replying to "I am curious why FIT..." 👏🏼 20:03:24 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: Ted Wheeler is literally tweeting about Formula E racing. like, for real? 20:03:27 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "your boss shut down ..." with 👍 20:03:33 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: Reacted to "your boss shut down ..." with 👍 20:03:36 From Chris (they/them) to Everyone: Reacted to "your boss shut down ..." with 👍 20:03:41 From Julie Pagano to Everyone: Replying to "I am curious why FIT..." And when people tried to engage at their meetings they reduced and reduced our ability to participate and became incredibly defensive. 20:03:42 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: That’s our mayor 😅👆 20:03:47 From Lisa Wright to Everyone: Replying to "I am curious why FIT..." Thanks Jake for that info. 20:03:56 From Lisa Wright to Everyone: Reacted to "your boss shut down ..." with 👍 20:04:04 From Michelle to Everyone: Kc, which meeting? I’ll go watch it. 20:04:10 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "Ted Wheeler is liter..." with 😂 20:04:34 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Replying to "Kc, which meeting? I..." The city destroyed multiple recordings so not all are available. 20:05:01 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Big thanks to our staff, Dori and Emily for their help to make this happen. Not all people at the City are working against us. 20:05:23 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Stephanie, Ashley asked about the 2 top companies And is the 3rd option not having GDT? 20:05:34 From Celeste Carey to Everyone: @ Aje and Dr Ronning… I hear you and do not suggest or imply that CPTED is a holistic response to all gang violence/ crime. But gang related crime eg muggings, drug activity, is reduced by CPTED, just like non-gang related mugging and drug activity. You are also both correct that comprehensive solutions eg workforce education, health care, jobs, compassionate public safety, etc are needed. I am a former nurse, worked in substance use tx and other community health measures... We DO need more than just CPTED, police, etc. 20:05:43 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: And Stephanie, I know Sanga wanted to be heard. 20:05:51 From Michelle to Everyone: Replying to "Kc, which meeting? I…" @kc Yeah. I’m sorry. I know I’ve been cut off by wheeler before and it broke my heart in that context. I’m sorry to all. It’s not ok to treat folks like that. 20:07:34 From Michelle to Everyone: Reacted to "They didn't think th…" with 👍 20:07:49 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: @Celeste 🙏🏽 appreciate all your hard work and passion around this ❤️ 20:08:21 From Lauren to Everyone: Great more criminalization instead of investment on the east side! That’ll be new 20:10:23 From Avel to Everyone: pccep thank you for providing servant leadership...your service is deeply appreciated tonight and ongoing 20:12:23 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: Can the community put together proposals, as an alternative? 20:12:46 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "Can the community pu..." with ❤️ 20:12:49 From Lauren to Everyone: Reacted to "Can the community pu…" with ❤️ 20:13:14 From Lauren to Everyone: Why would the people trying to sell the city something be honest about the negative impacts of their technology? 20:13:45 From KC Lewis to Everyone: the same thing happened with the body cam discussion 20:13:52 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "the same thing happe..." with 👍 20:14:13 From KC Lewis to Everyone: the city didn't even have policies in place before choosing a provider 20:14:18 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Amen, Sanga! 20:14:22 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "the city didn't even..." with 👍 20:14:26 From Ria Ward to Everyone: Reacted to "Amen, Sanga!" with ❤️ 20:14:48 From Lauren to Everyone: Reacted to "Amen, Sanga!" with ❤️ 20:15:22 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: THAT PART 20:15:23 From Olive, International League of People's Struggle to Everyone: ☝🏻 20:15:41 From Ria Ward to Everyone: Reacted to "THAT PART" with ❤️ 20:16:06 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: we know about ppb, and the origins of policing, and yet here we are. if the govt really cared about truly stopping the shootings shotspotter would be canceled tonight and use that money for true solutions. the absurdity of all this is overwhelming. stephanie howard and yume sound too procop to me... iphonesanga, PREACH! stop cop city RIP tortuguita 20:16:17 From Lisa Wright to Everyone: Reacted to "the city didn't even..." with 👍 20:16:20 From Lisa Wright to Everyone: Reacted to "Amen, Sanga!" with ❤️ 20:16:42 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: 🖤 20:16:43 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: Im literally tearing up , you said that so well. Ted wheeler is a cop without a badge 20:16:58 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Don’t forget that Sanga alerted the community to danger before and was ignored by cops. Later, people died. We need to listen and honor her voice. 20:17:04 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "Im literally tearing..." with ❤️ 20:17:27 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Thank you for bringing your voices here... 20:17:46 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: He don’t give af about black/brown Indigenous people!!!! 20:17:47 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: ted wheeler has enough generational wealth to house every unhoused person in this city and more. 20:17:55 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "ted wheeler has enou..." with 👍 20:18:43 From Julie Pagano to Everyone: 100%. Software is garbage in garbage out. 20:18:48 From Lauren to Everyone: Reacted to "we know about ppb, a…" with ❤️ 20:18:58 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "100%. Software is ga..." with 👍 20:19:05 From Lisa Wright to Everyone: Reacted to "100%. Software is ga..." with 👍 20:19:36 From Lauren to Everyone: Reacted to "100%. Software is ga…" with 👍 20:19:49 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Reacted to "100%. Software is ga..." with 👍 20:20:12 From Lauren to Everyone: Removed a 👍 reaction from "100%. Software is ga…" 20:20:13 From Lauren to Everyone: Reacted to "100%. Software is ga…" with 👍 20:20:14 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Reacted to "100%. Software is ga..." with 👍 20:20:15 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "Don’t forget that Sa..." with 👍 20:20:46 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: thank you, Aje! 20:21:11 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "thank you, Aje!" with ❤️ 20:21:21 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Here’s a review from MIT talking about algorithmic bias: https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/07/17/1005396/predictive-policing-algorithms-racist-dismantled-machine-learning-bias-criminal-justice/ 20:21:25 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Reacted to "thank you, Aje!" with ❤️ 20:21:27 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: the argument for dealing nicely with cops doesn’t mitigate cop violence in your community spaces - it just displaces it. it means someone else pays for your apparent peace. cop outreach isn’t about offering you peace it’s about making you an accomplice. and in communities where violence against certain marginalised people is invisiblised guess who becomes the target… 20:21:32 From Ria Ward to Everyone: Reacted to "Here’s a review from…" with ❤️ 20:21:35 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: Reacted to "Here’s a review from..." with ❤️ 20:21:36 From Lisa Wright to Everyone: Reacted to "Here’s a review from..." with ❤️ 20:21:48 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Abort it. 20:21:56 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: ABORT IT! 20:22:01 From Olive, International League of People's Struggle to Everyone: abort it!!! 20:22:07 From Sophia, International League of People's Struggle to Everyone: ABORT IT! 20:22:10 From Kate Sattler (she/her) to Everyone: ABORT IT! 20:22:14 From Lisa Wright to Everyone: ABORT IT! 20:22:26 From iPhoneSanga to Everyone: Abort It 20:22:52 From Chris to Everyone: No one tonight spoke in favor of it 20:23:06 From Avel to Everyone: Celeste has made it plain...that is the question 20:23:07 From Lauren to Everyone: Thank for summing that up Celeste! 20:23:13 From Ria Ward to Everyone: Reacted to "Celeste has made it …" with ❤️ 20:23:41 From Kate Sattler (she/her) to Everyone: Reacted to "Celeste has made it …" with ❤️ 20:23:43 From Candace Avalos to Everyone: Thank you Celeste - that's the question we all came here to have answered. 20:23:45 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: we did this with JoAnn and Ted wheeler in like 2018. she supported us. he did not. we do not want shotspotter. we want to defund the ppb. 20:23:54 From Ria Ward to Everyone: ABORT IT!! 20:24:00 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Maybe another way of phrasing it: What consequences is Ted Wheeler willing to face if he decides to ONCE AGAIN disregard the community’s response? 20:24:05 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "Maybe another way of..." with 👍 20:24:12 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: Reacted to "Maybe another way of..." with 👍 20:24:13 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Reacted to "Maybe another way of..." with 👍 20:24:21 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "ABORT IT!!" with 👍 20:24:29 From Lisa Wright to Everyone: Reacted to "Maybe another way of..." with 👍 20:24:29 From Candace Avalos to Everyone: Reacted to "Maybe another way of..." with 👍 20:24:43 From Ria Ward to Everyone: Reacted to "Maybe another way of…" with 👍 20:24:55 From Gloria Luzader to Everyone: City wide vote? 20:25:00 From Ria Ward to Everyone: Reacted to "ABORT IT!!" with 👍 20:25:02 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "Abort it." with 👍 20:25:03 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Stephanie, please tell your colleagues that we as a community do not feel heard. And we are not going anywhere. We will keep showing up. 20:25:03 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Celeste, thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you. 20:25:08 From Ria Ward to Everyone: Reacted to "Celeste, thank you t…" with ❤️ 20:25:11 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Abort it. 20:25:14 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Go Celeste Go Celeste 20:25:15 From Kate Sattler (she/her) to Everyone: Reacted to "Celeste, thank you t…" with ❤️ 20:25:20 From Ria Ward to Everyone: Reacted to "Go Celeste Go Celest…" with ❤️ 20:25:21 From Lisa Wright to Everyone: Reacted to "Celeste, thank you t..." with ❤️ 20:25:24 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "Abort it." with ❤️ 20:25:29 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "Celeste, thank you t..." with ❤️ 20:25:31 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Reacted to "Celeste, thank you t..." with ❤️ 20:25:35 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Tell City Council that 100% of the testimonies oppose SpotSpotter. From all walks of life. 20:25:39 From Ria Ward to Everyone: Removed a 👍 reaction from "ABORT IT!!" 20:25:40 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "Tell City Council th..." with 👍 20:25:41 From Michelle to Everyone: Reacted to "Tell City Council th…" with 👍 20:25:44 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Reacted to "Abort it." with ❤️ 20:25:44 From Candace Avalos to Everyone: Reacted to "Celeste, thank you t..." with ❤️ 20:25:44 From Sophia, International League of People's Struggle to Everyone: Reacted to "Tell City Council th..." with ☝️ 20:25:46 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "Tell City Council th..." with 👍 20:25:49 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: LISTEN TO BLACK WOMEN — that’s all you need to tell Ted. 20:25:53 From Kat to Everyone: Thank you so much Celeste for bringing it home 20:25:54 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "Thank you so much Ce..." with ❤️ 20:25:55 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: We all want public safety! This is not it. 20:25:58 From Alyssa Vitale (she/her) to Everyone: Thank you, Celeste 20:26:03 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "LISTEN TO BLACK WOME..." with ❤️ 20:26:04 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Listen to Black women. 20:26:13 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "We all want public s..." with 👍 20:26:14 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Listen to Black women. 20:26:15 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Reacted to "LISTEN TO BLACK WOME..." with ❤️ 20:26:18 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Reacted to "Tell City Council th..." with 👍 20:26:23 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "Listen to Black wome..." with ❤️ 20:26:27 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: City Council loves to pin testifiers as “left wing” or “Antifa.” We oppose these decisions because it is not good for the well being of the community. We are from different backgrounds and views. 20:26:32 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "Listen to Black wome..." with ❤️ 20:26:36 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Ask Ted if he’s willing the bear the consequences of not listening to us?? 20:26:37 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "Thank you, Celeste" with ❤️ 20:26:41 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Because we won’t take this lying down. 20:26:50 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Goals of PCCEP as put forward in the City’s PCCEP Plan: PCCEP members will independently assess the Settlement Agreement using the tools outlined in this Plan. PCCEP will work to facilitate positive police/community relationships and promote public safety by assessing PPB’s current community engagement processes, and developing recommendations and strategies for systems to increase public outreach and engagement with a broad cross-section of the community, to build confidence and improve outcomes. Additionally, PCCEP members will review and make recommendations on PPB policies touching the DOJ Settlement Agreement and/or key areas of concern, including constitutional policing, use of force, interactions with people experiencing mental illnesses, complaint investigations, and racial justice. In order for PPB to effectively build trust with Portland’s diverse communities, the communities’ concerns must be heard and meaningful action by PPB must be taken. To facilitate this outcome, PCCEP members will also make recommendations in the key areas of concern for Portland’s diverse communities based on the communities’ articulated experiences and grievances. 20:26:51 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Listen to Celeste. 20:26:55 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: https://www.portland.gov/sites/default/files/2022/pccep-plan-further-amendments-ex-1-to-resolution-substitute3.pdf 20:27:05 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "Stephanie, please te..." with 👍 20:27:19 From Ria Ward to Everyone: Celeste 🔥🙌🏽 20:27:22 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "ABORT IT!" with 👍 20:27:24 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "Celeste 🔥🙌🏽" with 👍 20:27:27 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "ABORT IT!" with 👍 20:27:31 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "Abort It" with 👍 20:27:36 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Listen to Celeste. Listen to Hardesty. She also was deeply opposed to ShotSpotter. 20:27:39 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: When he came to the protests I asked him “why are you still employing an officer who took an oath to tell the truth at trial. Yet he completely lied on the stand and in the report‼️ if I committed perjury, I’d be sitting in jail! But he keeps his job?! I know there’s transcripts from my trial, can I send you physical evidence that contradicts what he said under oath, what action will be taken if I send it to you? “ he said his office would look at it. Guess who still has his job as an officer? Potentially lying on other people who’ve gone to trial!! This isn’t accountability in any way , it’s telling him lying under oath is okay and he gets to keep his job! 20:27:41 From Lisa Wright to Everyone: Listen to Celeste, Listen to Sanga, listen to and convey the message. We want public safety, and this is not it. 20:27:46 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "ABORT IT!" with 👍 20:27:49 From Chris (they/them) to Everyone: Reacted to "Listen to Celeste. L..." with 💯 20:27:50 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Reacted to "Listen to Celeste. L..." with 💯 20:27:52 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "abort it!!!" with 👍 20:27:57 From Lisa Wright to Everyone: Reacted to "Listen to Celeste. L..." with 💯 20:28:04 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: In reference to Ted wheeler 20:28:15 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "Amen, Sanga!" with ❤️ 20:28:23 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: 100% of the testimonies were opposed. And in FITCOG as well. Thank you. 20:28:24 From Ria Ward to Everyone: Reacted to "Listen to Celeste, L…" with ❤️ 20:28:27 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "the city didn't even..." with 👍 20:28:30 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "100% of the testimon..." with 👍 20:28:38 From Lauren to Everyone: Reacted to "100% of the testimon…" with 👍 20:28:41 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: Reacted to "100% of the testimon..." with 👍 20:28:43 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: Reacted to "Listen to Celeste, L..." with ❤️ 20:28:48 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "the same thing happe..." with 👍 20:28:49 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Thank you, Julie! 20:28:53 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Reacted to "100% of the testimon..." with 👍 20:29:01 From Michelle to Everyone: Thank you to everyone that’s here and speaking. 20:29:15 From Kate Sattler (she/her) to Everyone: Reacted to "100% of the testimon…" with 👍 20:29:30 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Reacted to "100% of the testimon..." with 👍 20:29:33 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Removed a 👍 reaction from "100% of the testimon..." 20:29:51 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Reacted to "Listen to Celeste. L..." with 💯 20:29:53 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Removed a 💯 reaction from "Listen to Celeste. L..." 20:30:48 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Can you tell us which interests? 20:30:52 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "Can you tell us whic..." with 👍 20:30:57 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "100% of the testimon..." with 👍 20:31:02 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Interests from a private company? From the top 1% of Portland? 20:31:08 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: abort it. 20:31:16 From Lauren to Everyone: Police officer and real estate interests? Who don’t even live in Portland? 20:31:21 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "Police officer and r..." with 👍 20:31:22 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: We have made our interests clear. 20:31:34 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Please list the interests and groups, Stephanie. 20:31:38 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "Please list the inte..." with 👍 20:31:40 From Kate Sattler (she/her) to Everyone: Reacted to "Please list the inte…" with 👍 20:31:42 From Lisa Wright to Everyone: Reacted to "Please list the inte..." with 👍 20:31:42 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: The problem is that the city treats police and community interests as equal(ish) when the police’s needs as PUBLIC SERVANTS should always be subservient to the PEOPLE 20:31:44 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Reacted to "Can you tell us whic..." with 👍 20:31:46 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Removed a 👍 reaction from "Can you tell us whic..." 20:31:49 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Reacted to "Please list the inte..." with 👍 20:31:49 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "The problem is that ..." with ❤️ 20:31:49 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: Reacted to "The problem is that …" with ‼️ 20:31:50 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Removed a 👍 reaction from "Please list the inte..." 20:31:51 From Lauren to Everyone: Reacted to "The problem is that …" with ❤️ 20:31:51 From Kate Sattler (she/her) to Everyone: Reacted to "The problem is that …" with ‼️ 20:31:52 From Michelle to Everyone: Reacted to "The problem is that …" with ❤️ 20:31:57 From Lauren to Everyone: Reacted to "Police officer and r…" with 👍 20:31:58 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Reacted to "The problem is that ..." with ❤️ 20:31:59 From Lauren to Everyone: Removed a 👍 reaction from "Police officer and r…" 20:31:59 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Reacted to "The problem is that ..." with ‼️ 20:31:59 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "The problem is that ..." with ☝️ 20:32:15 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: Reacted to "The problem is that ..." with ❤️ 20:32:16 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Which other spaces? Other spaces that don’t believe in data? 20:32:16 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: Reacted to "The problem is that ..." with ‼️ 20:32:17 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: what community members suggested this? were they paid by shotspotter? 20:32:19 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: Reacted to "The problem is that ..." with ☝️ 20:32:24 From Sophia, International League of People's Struggle to Everyone: I'm sorry, Stephanie which community are you talking about? What commonalities that unite this community group responsible for the recommendation can they be defined by? You've just confirmed there is a defined community that gave this recommendation. 20:32:24 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: Where’s the members in favor ? 20:32:26 From Julie Pagano to Everyone: This is being brought to council because of FITCOG tho right? 20:32:27 From Ria Ward to Everyone: It doesn’t matter how inclusive of a space you create if those voices are ignored. 20:32:38 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "It doesn’t matter ho..." with 👍 20:32:48 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "This is being brough..." with 👍 20:32:49 From Julie Pagano to Everyone: Stephanie didn’t answer my question about legal review. Is that something we could get a follow-up on 20:32:55 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "Where’s the members ..." with 👍 20:32:58 From Ria Ward to Everyone: Reacted to "The problem is that …" with ‼️ 20:33:03 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "Can you tell us whic..." with 👍 20:33:11 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "Interests from a pri..." with 👍 20:33:18 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "abort it." with 👍 20:33:23 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "Police officer and r..." with 👍 20:33:27 From Ria Ward to Everyone: Reacted to "Stephanie didn’t ans…" with 👍 20:33:49 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "I'm sorry, Stephanie..." with 👍 20:33:56 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Why is the city always “both-siding” a situation that is clearly a historically oppressive abuse of power? Rather than working towards reconciliation? 20:34:03 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Has there been any action or accountability at all? 20:34:05 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: I just heard it was still in investigation... 20:34:09 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "Which other spaces? ..." with 👍 20:34:13 From Kate Sattler (she/her) to Everyone: Reacted to "Why is the city alwa…" with ❤️ 20:34:23 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "The problem is that ..." with ❤️ 20:34:33 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: The investigation is into ShotSpotter not PPB or FITCOG. 20:34:38 From Dr. Elizabeth Allen to Everyone: I think the next thing is to ask DOJ is there a way that they or PCCEP can take the city to court and prevent the city from any new spending until PCCEP is satisfied with the city's budget priorities? 20:34:50 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: https://www.opb.org/article/2022/12/05/portland-oregon-shotspotter-gun-detection-choice/ 20:35:05 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Replying to "The investigation is..." I personally do not know... 20:35:14 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: THAT PART 20:35:17 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Yes 20:35:29 From Candace Avalos to Everyone: 100% KC 20:35:30 From Michelle to Everyone: Wheeler doesn’t care. 20:35:40 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: PPB cannot know the definition of accountability because they have never done so. They’ve never taken accountability ‼️ 20:35:40 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: corrupt af 20:35:44 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Folks can check out earlier today’s council session to hear exactly how Ted responds to things he doesn’t like to hear. 20:35:56 From iPhoneSanga to Everyone: Reacted to "Folks can check out …" with ✊🏽 20:35:57 From David Balgley to Everyone: Reacted to "Folks can check out ..." with 👆 20:36:06 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Reacted to "Folks can check out ..." with 👆 20:36:18 From Chris (they/them) to Everyone: I don't have the cognitive capacity to find words to provide testimony tonight, but I want to clearly state that I am opposed to ShotSpotter and any similar surveillance systems, for many of the reasons people have already shared this evening. It is heartbreaking how much City Council ignores testimony, which requires so much of the people, especially without Hardesty. Thank you. 20:36:22 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: That part! 20:36:31 From Lauren to Everyone: We all know there are no actual consequences for police officers. There’s no will in city hall or the “mayors” office to oppose anything PPA wants 20:36:35 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Folks can watch it here: https://www.portland.gov/council/agenda 20:36:36 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: like the investigation about ppb false allegations leaked to rightwing media? that investigation was a huge disappointment. 20:36:53 From Ria Ward to Everyone: Reacted to "Folks can watch it h…" with 👍 20:36:53 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "We all know there ar..." with 👍 20:36:54 From Lauren to Everyone: Reacted to "like the investigati…" with ❤️ 20:36:59 From Chris (they/them) to Everyone: Reacted to "Folks can check out ..." with 👆 20:37:02 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Than you, KC 20:37:14 From Michelle to Everyone: Reacted to "Folks can watch it h…" with 👍 20:37:18 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: I wish our city staff didn’t have to listen to the city attorneys. I wish they actually listened to us. 20:37:19 From Michelle to Everyone: Reacted to "We all know there ar…" with 👍 20:37:25 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: Reacted to "Folks can watch it h…" with ❤️ 20:37:27 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: We cannot have City Council act as an oligarchy. Which means, they decisions on their own, instead of a democracy. 20:37:58 From Julie Pagano to Everyone: They have promotional materials from the company selling the product. 20:38:08 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: yes he's (ted wheeler) has been ignoring us for years. 20:38:15 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: • Focused Intervention Team Community Oversight Group Official Recommendation On the Implementation of ShotSpotter Technology as a Focused Deterrence Tool to Address Gun Violence in Portland July 18th, 2022: https://www.portland.gov/fitcog/documents/fitcog-shotspotter-recommendation/download 20:38:18 From Michelle to Everyone: It’s traumatizing to go to council and be treated like crap. 20:38:58 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "It’s traumatizing to..." with ❤️ 20:39:00 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: fitcog is not "community members". 20:39:08 From David Balgley to Everyone: Will city councilmembers be at that town hall? 20:39:09 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Reacted to "It’s traumatizing to..." with ❤️ 20:39:20 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Reacted to "It’s traumatizing to..." with ❤️ 20:39:26 From Lauren to Everyone: Reacted to "fitcog is not "commu…" with 👍 20:39:31 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "Will city councilmem..." with ☝️ 20:39:42 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "We cannot have City ..." with 👍 20:39:45 From Avel to Everyone: who are the members of the "evaluation committee"...? 20:39:45 From Sophia, International League of People's Struggle to Everyone: I think we want to know what group made the recommendation and why the opinion of 100% of the community present is less valuable than their opinions 20:40:07 From Julie Pagano to Everyone: Information about FITCOG is here: https://www.portland.gov/fitcog 20:40:32 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: So: if PCCEP meeting, FITCOG, and when City Council comments happen are all opposed, I’m not sure why there would be any chance of a yes to ShotSpotter. I am just wondering if there are any other groups. PPB? People for Portland? Others? 20:40:35 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to " I don't have the co..." with ❤️ 20:40:46 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "corrupt af" with 👍 20:40:47 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: Which council members are still open to the interests of the community and which ones are already bought and paid for? 20:40:55 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "PPB cannot know the ..." with ❤️ 20:41:04 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "Wheeler doesn’t care..." with ❤️ 20:41:05 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: Dismantle Portlands city council 🗣️ if “I don’t care” comes out the mayors mouth (to a community member) he shouldn’t be mayor ‼️he’s been demolishing the city & wholeheartedly backing PPB and their heinous crimes . There’s no reason why he should still be in a position of power. 20:41:23 From Lauren to Everyone: Reacted to "So: if PCCEP meeting…" with 👆 20:41:36 From Lauren to Everyone: Removed a 👆 reaction from "So: if PCCEP meeting…" 20:41:38 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "I think the next thi..." with ❤️ 20:41:39 From Lauren to Everyone: Reacted to "So: if PCCEP meeting…" with ❤️ 20:41:45 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: Reacted to "So: if PCCEP meeting..." with ❤️ 20:41:45 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Reacted to "So: if PCCEP meeting..." with ❤️ 20:41:54 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Reacted to "So: if PCCEP meeting..." with ❤️ 20:41:55 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: This is the same mayor who called for violence against activists. “Make them hurt a little bit!’ And today, he told us he doesn’t care about us while tone policing. 20:42:19 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "This is the same may..." with ❤️ 20:42:41 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "Dismantle Portlands ..." with 👍 20:42:50 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: 👏 20:42:57 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: (stephanie — jump ship, be a whistleblower, leak intel like PPB does, be on our side!) 20:43:14 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: 😉 20:43:32 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "I think we want to k..." with ❤️ 20:43:48 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: I don’t understand why the final answer falls into someone’s hands other than the PEOPLE IT AFFECTS‼️ 20:43:53 From Ria Ward to Everyone: Sanga ✊🏽 20:44:19 From Lauren to Everyone: We’ll end up paying for more lawsuits 20:44:27 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "Sanga ✊🏽" with ❤️ 20:44:29 From Lauren to Everyone: Reacted to "Sanga ✊🏽" with ❤️ 20:44:30 From Olive, International League of People's Struggle to Everyone: Power to the People 20:44:32 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: Reacted to "Sanga ✊🏽" with ❤️ 20:44:39 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "I don’t understand w..." with ❤️ 20:44:44 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Removed a ❤️ reaction from "So: if PCCEP meeting..." 20:44:46 From Sophia, International League of People's Struggle to Everyone: At a public town hall? 20:44:51 From Julie Pagano to Everyone: FITCOG is not representative of the community as a whole. 20:45:01 From Julie Pagano to Everyone: as evidenced by this meeting. 20:45:10 From Lauren to Everyone: Reacted to "as evidenced by this…" with ❤️ 20:45:17 From iPhoneSanga to Everyone: Again No Real Answer 20:45:21 From Lisa Wright to Everyone: Reacted to "as evidenced by this..." with ❤️ 20:45:30 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: FITCOG Members: Kimberely Dixon, Vice Chair Ronnie Faavae Terrence Hayes Jaidra Hennessey Lionel Irving Sean Jacobson Victor Leo Dr. Gina Ronning Taylor Stone Chanel Thomas Pastor Ed Williams, Chairperson 20:45:36 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: who? no one asked us? 4 miles probably includes my home. 20:46:01 From Luna -twerkin protestor. to Everyone: We could build a mental health facility for addiction/mental health / homelessness that solely focuses on Black Women‼️ I can’t feel comfortable talking to a therapist that has never been followed because of their skin color . 20:46:35 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: I want to reiterate that we come from all walks of life, and are not subjective/biased or a radical group and that the City is objective/unbiased. We are actually based in research and data, which makes us much far more objective. 20:46:41 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: I am confused why you can’t comment on the investigation into illegal lobbying that included PPB and FITCOG, but you can defend the recommendation for ShotSpotter that came from FITCOG as community members. 20:46:46 From Kate Sattler (she/her) to Everyone: Reacted to "I don’t understand w…" with ❤️ 20:46:48 From Lauren to Everyone: Reacted to "I am confused why yo…" with ❤️ 20:46:52 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: Reacted to "I am confused why yo..." with ❤️ 20:46:56 From PCCEP Staff 3 to Everyone: Thank you for being here, Senator Gordly. 20:47:02 From Kate Sattler (she/her) to Everyone: Reacted to "who? no one asked us…" with ❤️ 20:47:15 From Lauren to Everyone: Reacted to "I want to reiterate …" with ❤️ 20:47:22 From Lisa Wright to Everyone: Reacted to "I am confused why yo..." with ❤️ 20:47:24 From Lisa Wright to Everyone: Reacted to "I want to reiterate ..." with ❤️ 20:47:42 From Julie Pagano to Everyone: Reacted to "I am confused why yo..." with ❤️ 20:47:59 From Dr. Elizabeth Allen to Everyone: Celeste, when public servants don't perform their duties, there are ways to go to court to take the power to spend out of their hands. 20:48:11 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "Celeste, when public..." with 👍 20:48:14 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Reacted to "So: if PCCEP meeting..." with ❤️ 20:48:29 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: I put my hand down., I just wanted to ask Stephanie if PCCEP get the links for the upcoming town hall and the city council meeting so that we can send out the invite to everyone here? 20:48:39 From Kate Sattler (she/her) to Everyone: Like a few others, I’m also unable to speak tonight, but want to go on record (again!) as being against ShotSpotter and similar technologies. It DOES NOT prevent gun violence or improve public safety - and further it causes racist, traumatizing HARM and extracts community resources - so why is it even being pursued? The RFP should already have been shelved. The preferred vendor has already operated unethically! Community members have presented so many alternative solutions tonight - many of which have been PROVEN to reduce gun violence and make people safer here in Portland - which should be the goal. Invest in those instead. Abort now! 20:48:59 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Reacted to "I want to reiterate ..." with ❤️ 20:48:59 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: abort it! 20:49:02 From Lauren to Everyone: Reacted to "Like a few others, I…" with ❤️ 20:49:31 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Reacted to "Like a few others, I..." with ❤️ 20:50:00 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: stephanie howard and ppb jake are here to pretend they care. how about the shotspotter trial be in council members neighborhood. and tevis' neighborhood. 20:50:01 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "Like a few others, I..." with ❤️ 20:50:46 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "I want to reiterate ..." with ❤️ 20:51:14 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Multiple of the current companies who submitted utilize facial recognition. 20:51:32 From Lisa Wright to Everyone: Reacted to "Like a few others, I..." with ❤️ 20:52:59 From Kat to Everyone: Eagl - has cameras right? 20:53:05 From Lauren to Everyone: Even outside of Oregon, all the actual pilots of this kind of technology end up in lawsuits 20:53:14 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Twenty20 and Eagl both use facial recognition technology. Will they automatically be excluded? 20:54:02 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: someone like me BUT LEGALLY DISTINCT from me would advise stephanie howard to consider a new career. police only care about the ruling class. police work is not work. 20:54:37 From Kat to Everyone: Hmm, but that would violate Oregon law (ORS 181A.250) The state law prohibits police from collecting or maintaining information about the political, religious or social views, associations or activities of people who are not suspected of criminal activity. Right??? 20:54:43 From Tia Palafox, she/ her, member to Everyone: Thank you Powellhurst-Gilbert for being here! 20:54:47 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "Hmm, but that would ..." with 👍 20:54:59 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "Thank you Powellhurs..." with 👏 20:55:47 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Thank you, Michelle! 20:55:55 From Julie Pagano to Everyone: Reacted to "Thank you Powellhurs..." with 👏 20:56:04 From Lauren to Everyone: Reacted to "Thank you, Michelle!" with 👍 20:56:25 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Use this PCCEP Public Comment Form Survey to send us comments: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/VW8DVHN 20:56:42 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "Like a few others, I..." with ❤️ 20:56:50 From La Oficina de Antifa to Everyone: Reacted to "abort it!" with ❤️ 20:57:22 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Thank you PCCEP! Thank you Ashley, Celeste, and all others! 20:57:25 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: bye (welcoming cops into your community tells people targeted by cops that they aren’t welcome and those aren’t their communities) 20:57:29 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Subscribe to the City Auditor’s office to get weekly notices about Portland City Council meeting agendas: https://portlandoregon.us16.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=fb4436284b536324673a1c80c&id=1d80c3d2cc 20:57:35 From Kate Sattler (she/her) to Everyone: Reacted to "Thank you PCCEP! Tha…" with ❤️ 20:57:36 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "bye (welcoming cops ..." with ❤️ 20:57:38 From Amanda Lamb, OJRC to Everyone: Thank you PCCEP for hosting! Thank you to all who commented for your advocacy! 20:57:38 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Reminder of a anti-surveillance forum next week! https://www.pdxprivacy.org/2023/02/28/stop-surveillance-community-forum/ 20:57:42 From zach (he/they) to Everyone: Reacted to "Thank you PCCEP! Tha..." with ❤️ 20:57:47 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "Reminder of a anti-s..." with ☝️ 20:57:57 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Reacted to "Thank you PCCEP! Tha..." with ❤️ 20:57:59 From Lisa Wright to Everyone: Thank you PCCEP for setting up this community meeting and to everyone for the informed testimony. 20:57:59 From Beatrix Li (she/they) to Everyone: Thank you to PCCEP. Wonderful work. 20:58:00 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Emails for City Council Commissioners: gonzalezoffice@portlandoregon.gov; comm.rubio@portlandoregon.gov; MappsOffice@portlandoregon.gov; CommissionerRyanOffice@portlandoregon.gov; mayorwheeler@portlandoregon.gov 20:58:13 From Julie Pagano to Everyone: Thank you PCCEP! 20:58:18 From Michelle to Everyone: Thank you. 20:58:31 From Chris to Everyone: Thank you, PCCEP! 20:58:54 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: And thank you to our panelists and translators! 20:59:05 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "And thank you to our..." with ❤️ 20:59:20 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Make sure to visit the revised PCCEP “Get Involved” page. There, they can find links to leave written public comment and agenda input. We also a phone number where people can leave PCCEP verbal public comment: https://www.portland.gov/pccep/about-us/pccep-get-involved 20:59:20 From Kate Sattler (she/her) to Everyone: Reacted to "And thank you to our…" with ❤️ 20:59:22 From barb. rainish to Everyone: please consider doing public comment at the city council meetings. sign up via auditors link above. PLEASE!! 20:59:31 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Reacted to "please consider doin..." with ❤️ 20:59:32 From PCCEP Staff 3 to Everyone: The Focused Intervention Team Community Oversight Group (FITCOG), which created the ShotSpotter Recommendation, has upcoming meetings on its website: https://www.portland.gov/fitcog Its next meeting is tomorrow. 20:59:42 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Contact PCCEP at PCCEPinfo@portlandoregon.gov 20:59:44 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Reacted to "please consider doin..." with ❤️ 20:59:54 From Lisa Wright to Everyone: Reacted to "And thank you to our..." with ❤️ 20:59:54 From Dr. Ronning to Everyone: So long as these discussions seek to maintain us vs them, m way or no way and not address underlying needs n all sides these spaces will remain adversarial and do nothing to accomplish relationship building. 20:59:56 From Ashley Schofield (she/her) PCCEP member to Everyone: Subscribe to the City Auditor’s office to get weekly notices about Portland City Council meeting agendas: https://portlandoregon.us16.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=fb4436284b536324673a1c80c&id=1d80c3d2cc 21:00:15 From Kala to Everyone: Thank you for the invite, hope everyone has a good evening ! 21:00:23 From Jake Dockter (he/him) to Everyone: Replying to "So long as these dis..." naw 21:00:23 From PCCEP Staff 3 to Everyone: Additionally, the Police Accountability Commission (or a sub-committee) meets nearly every Monday and Thursday. Its calendar is at https://www.portland.gov/police-accountability/events 21:00:33 From Aje (she/they) Freedom to Thrive to Everyone: Thank you all for coming!! ❤️